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Old 09-18-2006, 12:55 PM
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Too much noise please help

This my first post, although I have been a "Lurker" for some time.
I have done a number of B&W restorations, but when enlarged this attached image appears to be very "pixelated" and won't take my attempts at correction?
Any advice would be welcome.

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Old 09-18-2006, 01:12 PM
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What's your scanning resolution? I usually recommend 600ppi. This is technically overkill since a paper print doesn't have that much detail, but I find it gives me a good working size without resampling later (which distorts tonal values).
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:07 PM
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Too much noise

Thanks Doug
600 ppi - tried 300 same results - did both TIF and JPEG, not much difference except the TIF file was bigger.

I have used the same scanner, Epson perfection 1660 for all of my other projects - never had any problems. The original appeared OK ececpt for obvious age problems.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:18 PM
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Can you crop out a bit of the full-sized image that shows what you're asking about and attach it? The full image is too small to examine.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:08 PM
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Here is a small selection @200%
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Old 09-19-2006, 01:33 AM
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i had a go at this.

polaroid dust and scratch remover on duped layer.
doubled image size.
brightness/contrast adjustment layer.
clarify at 10.
lots of clone and push (heavy smudge).
cloned back in some parts that were good in the original that d&s partially removed. (yeah, i shld have masked)
resized back down.

craig

edit: oh, and did a light usm in there somewhere also. radius 2, str 50, clip 5
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:12 AM
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Just looks blurry to me with some dust or scratch caused "noise". Both are likely in the original print. To fix the noise, use some type of noise reduction program.

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Old 09-19-2006, 02:40 PM
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try Neat image this may help cure your problem www.neatimage.com
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Old 09-19-2006, 02:43 PM
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Try turning off all automatic settings on your scanner (that looks like it has been filtered).
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Old 09-23-2006, 08:56 PM
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Hi,

NCP Doug,


welcome to RP!!

I had a go at your picture... I worked on the smaller one you posted since the enlargement looks very blurred..
  • I selected the shadows:
    • Softer Selection > (Ctrl+Alt+ ~ to select Luminosity, Ctrl+Shift+I to invert my selection ... now the shadows are selected)

    • Stronger Selection > select the shadows using a channel.

    • Strongest Selection > Select the shadows using a Threshold Adjustment Layer

  • To balance the shadows and start minimizing the noise, I used a Curves Adjustment Layer (see Attachment here ) on my Selection.

  • Merged visible:

    (Keeping the Alt key pressed, open your Layers Palette's Menu and, click on 'Merge Visible'.

    A new Layer containing all your corrections will be created on top of all the other Layers ....

    This procedure enables you to carry on with your restoration from your advanced point... without losing any of the previous steps/Layers... thus giving you the possibility to retrace your steps and making changes wherever necessary.... even after you've 'finished' the job....
    )

  • I re-selected the shadows by Ctrl+click on the Curves Layer Mask, activated (clicked on) the Merged Layer and pressed Ctrl+J to paste my selection on a new Layer.

  • Run Neat Image to remove the remaining noise from my selection. (Neat Image = a free noise removing Software that can be downloaded here).

Hope this helps.

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Last edited by Flora; 09-24-2006 at 10:03 AM. Reason: Added Info..
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