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Old 10-10-2006, 03:27 PM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

ok, well, back off on the neat image settings then. it's too much blur and not necessary here. i've been working on this a bit myself and have used no noise removal so far. i'll probably do a very light noise removal with psp when i get things better, but i save that for the last steps.

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Old 10-13-2006, 04:57 AM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

Hi anjcook,

had a go at your image and, like everybody else, I think it can be restored very well...
I used FFT to remove the texture ...

Yes, I know you are on a Mac and haven't found FFT for Mac yet...
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Originally Posted by anjcook
Thanks for your suggestion on FFT programs, but I haven't found anything other than Noise Ninja or Neat Image to work with..Image Analyzer is a Windows platform program only.
...but I remembered that this particular issue had been discussed before, so, after searching the forums, I found that Cameraken had provided links for a Mac version of FFT ... ... you can find them here

I do hope you will be able to get the Mac FFT filter because it really works wonders in removing old paper texture ... (Attachment 1) .... 's great Tutorial on its usage is here...true, this tutorial was written for Windows.. but I think that the technique is the same ....

To remove cracks, tears and to 'clean' the image, after having removed the texture, I used mostly blank Layers set to: Lighten, Darken, Colour, Soft Light, Overlay on which I used: black or white or colour brush, Heal Brush or Clone Tool (always sampling from surrounding areas and adjusting Opacity)... Levels to improve contrast and colour a bit ... USM for a light final sharpening.

I worked only on part of the little boy's face .... (Attachment 1)

Hope this helps...
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:31 PM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

WOW! Thank you Flora for the links and the great tips! I found the fft prgram for Mac, ImagJ, the other day and was going to try to figure it out later this weekend, so the how to link is DEF. a blessing to me! That photo is one of my baby brother when he was in grade 1. He's in his 40's now, and still a bit of a stinker

Thanks again for the links
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:36 PM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

I have just been using a lot of clone tool, obviously there is a lot more work to be done, but it's looking pretty good I think
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Old 10-13-2006, 11:08 PM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

a half hour later...didn't turn out all that great I don't think, but what do you all think?
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:25 AM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

As usual an excellent job from Flora. I would do all the stuff she mentioned about darken/lighten/overlay/etc... layers, however to get quick jump start on the cracks to ease the cloning/patching job, the first thing I'd do is this (it looks long, but it's just a couple minutes).

Duplicate the original (as always). Select (rectangular lasso) a small piece of undamaged photo that is somewhat representative of the texture in the whole image--I picked a section his cheeck. ctrl-shift-copy to put it into the clipboard. Open the pattern maker (filter->pattern maker). Click the "use clipboard" checkbox and then click the generate button. Then click the little save icon to save the pattern. Click cancel. We'll use this pattern later.

Next:

1. Copy the blue channel into a layer (attachment 1)
2. Do high-pass filter radius 9 on it (attachment 2)
3. Use levels adjust to isolate the cracks (attachment 3)
4. Using the move tool, shift this layer down and to the right 1 pixel
5. convert it to a selection (ctrl-click the thumbnail in the channel palette)
6. expand the selection 2 pixels
7. feather the selection 1 pixel
8. turn off the new layer and activate the original layer
9. choose the patch tool
10. pop up the pattern chooser and select the pattern you saved a minute ago.
11. click the "use pattern" button. Now you see attachment 4.

Attachment 4 still needs work, but the job is easier because the cracks are much reduced in visibility. You will need to mask this layer to remove a few problems it caused, but for me at least it saves some work because the healing brush doesn't have to work so hard.

Attachment 5 shows a few minutes worth of Flora-ization to patch up details that were formerly under cracks. For the ridge under the noise, I highpass filtered a photo of one of my sons (really, any person would work) and grabbed a copy of that facial feature and pasted onto our subject using linear light blend mode. Then surface blurred it and levels adjusted it to match tonality. The other features seem easy to clone/heal back to life.

I didn't bother with the texture because it was already mentioned.

Bart
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:05 AM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

Must agree with 'anjcook' Floras work is outstanding
Would be proud to even trhink that I could achieve a standard half as good

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Old 10-14-2006, 02:06 PM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

All I can say is WOW and THANKS! There are aLOT of great artists here with exceptionally good tips I am working away with the pic..still. I can't fet the Mac fft program ImageJ to do anything...Oh well...when and if I get it down-pat, I will always remember it! LOL
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Old 10-14-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

Thanks everybody for your kindness!!!

anjcook,

Quote:
Originally Posted by anjcook
That photo is one of my baby brother when he was in grade 1. He's in his 40's now, and still a bit of a stinker...
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I do hope you will make that Mac FFT run!!!

cducasse,

I think you started quite well ... but somehow got a bit heavy on the surface blur on your final version... You might also try to add some noise and feathering to your vignette which looks a bit to hard on the edges and definitely too smooth to fit in with the rest of the image...

Bart,

I just love your 'quick jump start on the cracks' .... great technique!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!!

Smurf,

thanks for your kind words .... as for the rest ... just 'stick around' ...
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:40 PM
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Re: Cracks and stains galore

Hi Anjcook.

If you need any help with ImageJ then just ask. I have the Windows version installed and it works OK on this image.

This is a great practice picture for cracks and tears. Please consider uploading it to our archive. There is a thread to help here
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/web...e-archive.html


Hi Bart.
I tried the ‘quick start’
I don’t get step 4? I missed it out and it worked OK? But your results are better than I could get. I am using PS7 but I think I translated it right?
Are you just trying to remove the darkest areas of the damage?



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