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Old 10-12-2006, 12:03 PM
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Re: Bad Patina on old photos

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I started with the channel mixer selected monochrome and 100% red the least silvered channel.
Then I used a levels adjustment layer.
I copied this result to a new layer using screen blending mode and a black mask and painted in the dark faces to lighten them up.
I then added color back in using a HSL adjustment layer.
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I use Potoshop Elements 4.0. There is no such tool as a channel mixer--or am I missing it.
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:52 PM
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Re: Photoshop Elements & Channels

I don't know what photoshop elements has as far as channels go so I am unable to answer your question.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:34 PM
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Re: Bad Patina on old photos

Hi all. I've been visiting RP for a few weeks now and have started to do a bit of restoration work. You folks are all so very talented and knowledgeable. This forum is a gold mine.

With this photo:

Smooth up the image in Neat Image.
Retouch some spots.
Take it into Retouch Pro and filter to black and white.
Make a copy and blk/wh filter it again... only darker.
Layer the dark image over the original black and white.
Adjust opacity and use eraser to selectively finish darkening areas.
Flatten, finish any remaining retouches and dupe.
Take the duped copy back into Retouch Pro for a platinum filter.
Adjust the platinum layer to down to 75%.
Flatten.

That is a near as I can recall anyways
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:52 AM
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Question Re: Bad Patina on old photos

Sunfly:
Your results look pretty good to me. However, I cannot figure out what you did. The following comment:
"Take it into Retouch Pro and filter to black and white." ??
Retouch Pro doesn't have any editing capabilities that I can find.
What do you mean by the above Bit of instruction?
Thanks
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:52 PM
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Re: Bad Patina on old photos

The "grandpas family" shot is easily done in Elements:

-duplicate the original (you now have two layers)
-run "reduce noise" on it to smooth out the grain--especially in the shadows/suits
-erase their faces on the noise reduced layer (ensures face details are preserved.) Erase anything else that has important detail to preserve.
-create a new level adjustment layer. Set the blend mode to multiply. This darkens the haze around the edges, but overdarkens the center area.
-Put a radial gradient on the mask for that layer to mask the darkening in the center.

The layer palette is attached (done in CS2, but I confined myself to PSE features) along with final result.

The "dad & bros" shot is easy to do in photoshop, but the inability to extract a color channel and have masks on raster layers in PSE makes it more challenging. For not too many $$$ you can get this fixer-upper for PSE4:

http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Power-P.../dp/078214456X

Anyway, rather than figure out how to do this one in elements, I just did it in CS2 and am attaching the layer palette so that you might figure out a workaround.

-"Red channel" is the red channel which has the least damage.
-"Degrunge" is used to get rid of the dark splotch on the left-hand guy's suit--same principle as byRo's degrunge tutorial.
-"highlight/shadow" lightens the shadows and then I masked it so it only affects the faces
-"levels1" is set to multiply and the levels sliders are shown. This darkens the patina.
-Finished up with USM

Bart
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File Type: jpg Grandpas-Fmly-ORIG-4x6_layers.jpg (15.2 KB, 17 views)
File Type: jpg Grandpas-Fmly-ORIG-4x6_pp.jpg (72.6 KB, 31 views)
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File Type: jpg dadbro_pp.jpg (65.6 KB, 39 views)
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Old 10-19-2006, 03:05 PM
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Bart:
Thanks for the amplification. I will try to replicate what you have done & ordered the book.
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Old 10-19-2006, 03:39 PM
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Re: Bad Patina on old photos

Bart:
I started out trying to follow your instructions but PSE4 will not let me erase the faces from Layer 1 (called background copy) In experimenting I could not figure out a way to erase faces except on the basic layer. Point me in the right direction, please.
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Old 10-20-2006, 07:04 AM
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Re: Bad Patina on old photos

Hi Pallidin,

I was referring to the Power Retouche plugin... the Pro version. I opened the layer with the Power Retouche Pro and applied the black and white filter. Thank you for your compliment.

Cheers


Sunfly:
Your results look pretty good to me. However, I cannot figure out what you did. The following comment:
"Take it into Retouch Pro and filter to black and white." ??
Retouch Pro doesn't have any editing capabilities that I can find.
What do you mean by the above Bit of instruction?
Thanks
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:28 AM
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Re: Bad Patina on old photos

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Bart:
I started out trying to follow your instructions but PSE4 will not let me erase the faces from Layer 1 (called background copy) In experimenting I could not figure out a way to erase faces except on the basic layer. Point me in the right direction, please.
Are you getting an error message or is it just not doing anything or is it painting a color instead of erasing? Is there a chance the copy layer is locked (little padlock symbol in the layer palette)? Just to be sure, I'm talking about the simple eraser--not the background eraser or magic eraser.

Bart

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Old 10-20-2006, 01:51 PM
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Re: Bad Patina on old photos

This is a non 'digital' method of cleaning up old photos
The 'patina' is in fact metallic silver that was not 'fixed' away in processing the print.
Try this on a corner
Take Silver polish/metal /polish on a cotton bud and gently work a small area in a circular pattern.
Let it dry then polish off.
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