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12-19-2006, 05:02 PM
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| | | Fixing a strange texture on this old photo Hello all,
New member here. I'm pretty experienced in Photoshop for Web Development and Ive dabbled a little bit in photo retouching but I'm still pretty much a noob. Anyway, I'm making a Ken Burns style video of my dad in which I'll need to zoom closer into the photos. What I'm noticing on a couple of them from around 1976 is that there is a texture on the scanned photo that I didn't really notice when I scanned it. I thought it was like tiny cracks at first but as I look closer it almost looks like it's some kind of glossy coating that has begun breaking down. Does this look familiar to anyone here and if so, what is the best way to restore that part of this photo? This forum seems like the place to be, I'm glad I found it!
P.S. It was tough for me to get the image down to 100k and still retain the texture detail I'm referring to, so I cropped and reduced the DPI and quality. If I need to put something else up let me know. Thanks. | 
12-19-2006, 07:05 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo hi,
I am novice my self but a few things to come mind
to me it looks like what they call cracking.. basically either at the time the picture was developed, improper mixtures or drying times causes uneven drying or over time heat and cold, the emulsion dries and shrinks and cracking or surface uneveness occurs...
now looking at the picture , normally it could look very minor but under a scan it could get amplified in the digitize picture... because of the angle of the scanning light..! I have run across that on a few of m scanned photographs.... smile... every flaw gets amplified..lol...
I was just reading today here on the board ,of a scanning technique that might help your case, to minimize the textured effects.. they referenced this retouchpro tutorial.... http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=58
it well worth the try.. and then after that.... use PS to do any additional repair.... but I won't address that.. this is too important to you., iam a novice ..... the experts are the one who can tell how to go about that... Quote: |
Originally Posted by Budkin Hello all,
New member here. I'm pretty experienced in Photoshop for Web Development and Ive dabbled a little bit in photo retouching but I'm still pretty much a noob. Anyway, I'm making a Ken Burns style video of my dad in which I'll need to zoom closer into the photos. What I'm noticing on a couple of them from around 1976 is that there is a texture on the scanned photo that I didn't really notice when I scanned it. I thought it was like tiny cracks at first but as I look closer it almost looks like it's some kind of glossy coating that has begun breaking down. Does this look familiar to anyone here and if so, what is the best way to restore that part of this photo? This forum seems like the place to be, I'm glad I found it!
P.S. It was tough for me to get the image down to 100k and still retain the texture detail I'm referring to, so I cropped and reduced the DPI and quality. If I need to put something else up let me know. Thanks. | | 
12-19-2006, 07:44 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo i ran this through the Polaroid dust and scratch filter. then sharpened using unmask sharpen and finally noise ninja to remove the final little bit of noise. this was a quick job about 8 minutes... more time would make for a better result. | 
12-19-2006, 07:59 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo Basically, Color Corrections, Decrack action (available here in RTP somewhere) and Surface Blur. Still a little "soft" and could use some sharpening and other tweaks, but it removes the texture. | 
12-19-2006, 08:18 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo I took a whack at reducing the "cackle" with a decent result. Since the cackles are about the same size I created a mask with the high pass filter. Reducing the brightness of the cackles turned them into noise like dots which all but disappeared with a run through Noiseware. I don't think the sharpenss suffered.
Also balanced the color a bit however ran out of time so i couldn't finish the hair which I assume is not really green. How do you like it otherwise?
Stosh
Last edited by stosh7; 12-19-2006 at 08:29 PM.
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12-19-2006, 09:08 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo Man these are all great. I love the fact that there are so many different ways go about it. I'll have to track down some of the actions and various tools that you guys are mentioning. If anyone has any recommendations for a "common" set of useful plug-ins beyond what Photoshop CS2 offers by default that would be great. Thanks a ton everyone!  | 
12-19-2006, 09:44 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo I like the look, stosh7!
Could you give a little more detail on how you did it...? sounds interesting.
Lasa | 
12-19-2006, 09:47 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo Hi Everyone..... I just happened to be snooping around and found you guys here with some awesome techniques.
Swampy, I'm going to look up that De-crack action..... I didn't know that existed...
And Stosh...... hey buddy...... that was some beautiful work!!! I'd love to know how you did that..... I know you said you created a mask with the high pass filter..... could you, V E R R Y..... S L O W L Y...... tellmehow?????  I love the results!
Beth | 
12-19-2006, 10:25 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo Budkin, I did a curve adjustment layer to correct the color then converted the image to LAB and ran Noiseware (a noise filter) on the L channel. I probably applied the noise filter more aggressively than I needed to and I did not sharpen.
Regards, Murray | 
12-19-2006, 10:57 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo Quote: |
Originally Posted by solitear ... I'm going to look up that De-crack action..... I didn't know that existed...Beth | For Beth, and everyone else who might be interested, here's a link to the "Quick De-crack" tutorial -- the tut has a link to the action. http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/index.php/?m=show&id=5 | 
12-19-2006, 11:11 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo i had a go at this also.
polaroid dust and scratch remover seems to work best. i ran it as a plugin, so i had to reduce the image size so that no side was greater than 800 pixels, but you could run it in stand-alone mode and it shld work fine without reducing.
i ran a color balance adjustment layer and brightness/contrast adjustment layer.
ran psp's digital camera noise removal.
some cloning and airbrushing.
p.s. he reminds me of peter sellers. | 
12-19-2006, 11:50 PM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo Hi There... lots of good advice i see
I used the medium filter... took a snapshot... backed up in the history pallet just before the medium filter. Then used the history brush set to darken to remove most of the damage.
I also ran it thru Image analyzer to the small texture.
Butch | 
12-20-2006, 12:43 AM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo CJ.... thanks for the link..... I can't wait to get....'crackin'.......Aarrrrgh......
oxox | 
12-20-2006, 03:56 AM
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12-20-2006, 06:58 AM
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| | | Re: Fixing a strange texture on this old photo adong,
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