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Old 12-28-2006, 11:34 PM
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Re: Stymied: How can I bring this back

Hope you can get the image copied under suitable lighting.

I did try some channel calculations which helped a little but didn't solve the problem. Then I found that Ro's de-grunge technique helps noticeably although certainly not a fix. Depending on the results of the copying, you might find the de-grunge step helpful.

I found her rather intriguing, so I worked on her for a while with dodge/burn overlay layers, patch tool etc. after the degrunging.
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:15 AM
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Fog I can clean; you have to clone.

Used Retinex clarification for the fog removal (Retinex set to Overlay).
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:22 AM
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Re: Stymied: How can I bring this back

I’ve erased some of the darker smudge, to be able to focus on other valid details.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:42 PM
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Re: Stymied: How can I bring this back

blue dog,

i can see why you're stymied on this one. it's a VERY difficult image. as you can see from the various attempts, it's not an easy fix. this is one of those that you can basically throw away the filters and quick fixes. they just arent going to come up to snuff. roll up your sleeves, zoom in, and get out the clone/heal type tools with a small size and medium to low opacity.

you can use a few quick things to help, like curves, levels, brightness/contrast, shadows/midtones/highlights, and clarify, but for the most part you're going to have to do a LOT of meticulous work to really restore this one.

mike's technique of double polarization might well work here, at least for part of it and his suggestion of finding a lab to do the job might be smart also. but, short of that, it's going to take some good old fashioned hand work to fix this one.

i'm currently working on this one as well, but i'm leaving to visit friends for the holiday, so, i probably wont post anything till i get back.
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Old 01-01-2007, 01:02 PM
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Here's a partial attempt...

The big difficulty with this one (IMO), is what appears to be wrinkling in the photo right across the subject. The wrinkling mixes indistinguishably with the folds in the clothing.

Enough griping here's what I did:

First step is to equalize what looks like dodging around her face and elsewhere. Made two monochrome versions. The first version is simply the luminosity (use channel mixer, and set coefficients to R,G,B = 31,58,11). The 2nd version is the blue channel. The blue channel looks better in the dodged areas, but no so good elsewhere. So I put a black mask on the 2nd version and painted softwhite in the areas that are too bright. This doesn't totally fix the problem, but it makes the best use of the information that's available.

2nd step is get rid of the folds/creases around her shirt. Created an inverse B&W mask which protects all those buttons. Then I can heal/clone somewhat sloppily to get rid of the folds without worrying about hurting the buttons.

3rd step is a masked curve to remove the rest of the dodging problem. Could have done this as the 2nd step--doesn't matter.

4th step is a couple of sharpenings to give the image more pop.

5th step is some final healing and speck removal.

I didn't do a complete job--just a quick and partial version of each step. There's still a lot of smaller cloudiness that requires some time-consuming work (some folks like dodging and burning, I prefer using a curve with a mask).

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Old 01-01-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Stymied: How can I bring this back

There is no escaping the dodge/burn stage, however as bart said, it is much better to use a couple of levels layers (one to lighten, one to darken).

Also, as CJ said the deGrunge trick will help a lot - but you have to be very careful with the masking so as not to introduce strange "glows".

This is a very dark (low-key) image and any effort to lighten it just makes a noisy mess. The darkness can be used to great effect in "hiding" defects (i.e. fade to black) but that doesn't mean making the whole background black - there is a door and a picture that can be recovered.

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Old 01-01-2007, 05:54 PM
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Re: Stymied: How can I bring this back

i took a different approach. this is almost all clone, airbrush, push and smudge. just a ton of hand work. i started this days ago and then went on a small vacation, so i dont recall everything i did, but the majority of it is as i said. there may have been a curves in there somewhere and i do also remember a clarify filter. i may have also use a shadow/midtones/highlights.
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Old 01-01-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: Stymied: How can I bring this back

Nice work Craig.

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Old 01-01-2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: Stymied: How can I bring this back

thanks, bart. definitely a stinker to work on.
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