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Old 04-10-2007, 04:42 PM
Angela9 Angela9 is offline
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uniform background and printing

Hi,

I'm new here - I've been lurking and learning for a while in this great forum. I could use some advice with an image I'm working on.

I've already done major repair work on this image, but I'm stuck with the background:

What can I do to the background on this picture, so I can be *certain* that the background in the upper half of the picture comes out black?

I've tried darkening the background, and it works fairly well on my inkjet printer, but I suspect much of the "blackness" has more to do with the ink absorption of the matte photo paper than the image having a background that will print properly in a shop, where I have much less control over paper used etc.

I also tried "replacing" the background with a gradient, but it looks totally artificial.

I've attached the picture and also a close-up, so you can see what the background looks like close up.

I hope someone has an idea.

Angela
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:42 PM
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Re: uniform background and printing

Hi Angela, I used the burn tool on your background.
Ray
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: uniform background and printing

Is this something like you had in mind?

The first thing I did was to run the image through Neat Image. The background is going to look fake unless you remove the noise from the woman or leave the noise in the background. I went half way on both.

I removed the woman from the background and used levels to darken. I used a gradient on the lower half. I could actually make it black-black but as you said it looks artificial. I added noise to the background and applied a G-Blur. I then used un-sharp mask on the woman and dress.
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:51 PM
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Re: uniform background and printing

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Hi Angela, I used the burn tool on your background.
Ray
Thanks Ray. I guess the burn tool could be a successful strategy in dealing with the gradient at the bottom of the dress - I hadn't thought of that. The separation between foreground and background looks a little to extreme to me. I got a similar result when I replaced the background with a black one.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: uniform background and printing

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Is this something like you had in mind?

The first thing I did was to run the image through Neat Image. The background is hoing to look fake unless you remove the noise from the woman or leave the noise in the background. I went half way on both.

I removed the woman from the background and used levels to darken. I used a gradient on the lower half. I could actually make it black-black but as you said it looks artificial. I added noise to the background and applied a G-Blur. I then used un-sharp mask on the woman and dress.
duwayne,

I really like this. In fact, I didn't know the image could come out looking like this! I would have never thought to try a noise reduction on the face. I think you just got me unstuck - many thanks.

P.S. I have attached the original, so you can see how far it's come. Very gratifying to be able to restore such priceless treasures.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:16 PM
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Re: uniform background and printing

nice one, duwayne.

i did something similar.

duplicate background layer.

select out the background

add noise and blur

change duplicate layer to soft light.

invert selection

digital camera noise removal.

unselect

added curves adjustment layer. moved the lower left dot straight right a bit.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:37 PM
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Re: uniform background and printing

Hi Angela, you did a very nice repair work.
The background you could modify using the black/gray/white points in the level adjustments (masking parts you don’t want to be altered). The gray section needs some noise reduction.
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looks good, chillin.
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Re: uniform background and printing

Hi

levels correction to get absolute black at the top
new layer softlight make a gradient on it from black to none starts from the bottom to the shoulders
chanege blending to get back details (blend.jpg)
burning tool around the lady (more carefully than i did, i've lost some detail of the hair sorry)

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Old 04-11-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: uniform background and printing

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i did something similar.
duplicate background layer.
select out the background
add noise and blur (...)
*That* was exactly what I was originally trying to achieve - before I heard of the Neat Image filter. Thank you. Now I have several things to try out.
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