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04-28-2007, 02:40 AM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo Hi VCOOPER,
I love the photos you've posted and think they can be restored to their original beauty.
I would have given one a try but the size of the photos posted are just too small and artifacted to show you how nice they could come out.
My suggestion is to slow down and stop using filters to cover up damage. The damage is still visible, but now it's just blurred. To get the most out of your restorations, you'll have to do everything in tiny steps. Zoom in and correct damage with the smallest brush. It's a bit tedious for those who are looking for a quick fix, but it will give you results you can be proud of.
Which tools to use? Using layers you can clone, lighten, darken, smudge, etc. Use separate layers for separate pieces of the photo. Stay organized and you'll be able to later edit your fixes without starting all over.
If you post a link to a hi res photo, I'll show you how I would tackle it.
Good luck | 
04-28-2007, 04:34 AM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo The photo was e-mailed to me and it is only 791k, if you are referring to the 40's Family. Is this a workable size. The Lady was a 3x4 xerox that I scanned. | 
04-28-2007, 05:07 AM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo If that's the only size that you have for the family, then it has to be good  It doesn't look as badly damaged as the portrait of the lady.
The lady scan looks very strange to me. I guess that's because you said it's a xerox.
When you scan, scan keeping the print size in mind and scan 300 dpi for each 100%
example: your 3x4 lady. If you want to print it exactly as is, you would scan at 300 dpi. Personally, when I have a photo that needs lots of work, I double and scan at 600dpi. You can always drop the dpi after the worst of the damage is repaired.
In the lady scan, my preference would be to scan 1200 dpi. Why? because it's only 3x4 and I would want to print larger and also there's much damage to repair since it's not a photo, but a xerox. (300 dpi for printing, double it to print 6x8, double it to give room to repair the damage) When the work is done you can downsize to 300 dpi at print size and save. Ah, and turn off all scanner enhancements like sharpness, levels, etc. All of that can and should be taken care of in photoshop.
If you have a better scan of the lady, I'd like to give it a try since I think it would make a beautiful photo. | 
04-28-2007, 05:17 AM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo Bill is exactly correct. There is no such thing as a quick fix with many photo restorations. It is tedious work... you either love it or you hate it. :-)
Try this....
Open up your family photo and re-save it as a new photoshop or paintshop file... whichever you are working in.
Add a blank layer over top of the family photo layer.
Select the clone stamp tool. Set it to sample all layers. My brush preference for cloning is a soft round. Opacity 100%. Flow 100%.
Zoom in 300% and 400%. Adjust your brush size down to 3 or 5 pixels.
Start cloning on the blank layer. As Bill stated, by cloning a blank layer, you can erase anything you don't like without losing all the work you are happy with. If you wish, create several layers for different areas of the photo.
Turning the cloning layer visibility on and off enables you to easily see if you are developing the dreaded 'cloning trails'. You also see your progress... it's inspiring!
Hope this helps... for a starter. Oh... and don't forget to 'save' frequently, if your program is not set to auto-save.
Cheers,
Sherry | 
04-28-2007, 05:54 AM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo Sharpening, cleaning the picture, and last step was to add some noise. | 
04-28-2007, 10:23 AM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo Clone to new layer. Smudge. 2 adjustment layers Curves, Contrast | 
04-28-2007, 11:56 AM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo Luv,
You did a nice job on that one. | 
04-28-2007, 12:36 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo Thanks  I'm new around here so that means a lot | 
04-28-2007, 12:42 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo If I ever get the hang of posting correctly around here, it will be wonderful, I do so that each of you with each rendition of the picture of the "The Lady" has just so impressed me at where I can eventually get if I keep at it. I am a retired senior who has taken on photo recovery and restoration in my family as a hobby.
Luv, I worked diligently on the 40s family and could not get that skin issue correct, I keep having that problem.
BillFrey, I did rescan as you suggested at 1200 dpi with all the scanner enhancement turned off. I now have to sign up for a place that I can post it for you as it will not reduce in size for web image in photo shop.
I will be working on this project | 
04-28-2007, 01:09 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo I have been cloning on a duplicate copy of the original layer. I tried cloning on a blank layer as was suggested, but I could not get any effects to show. I have had this issue before where I have to flatten the image before I am ready because I need to get to the base image, or I go work there and then move up the layers to see what the final looks like. I am working with the help of the Restoration and Retouching book by K. Eismann, but am certainly incorporating the tips from each of you. Again this is a wonderful experience. | 
04-28-2007, 01:18 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo > tried cloning on a blank layer as was suggested, but I could not get any effects to show.
Make sure you have "Sample all layers" checked in the options bar | 
04-28-2007, 01:56 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo VCOOPER,
Try www.photobucket.com for an image hosting service. It's free, widely used, and user friendly.
-Guy | 
04-28-2007, 03:19 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo Here's my shot at the first one. | 
04-28-2007, 10:21 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo fascinating picture.
i did this over several days, so my exact steps are long lost. however, it was a LOT of clone, some push, airbrush, clarify, an adjustment layer or two and most all of my standard fare.
however, there was one big difference i did here this time. the image, as posted, had 'the blocks'. the blocks are those small blocks, usually 8 x 8 pixels where some operation like sharpening has been done. this is done by program or a scanner. it's a decent method but often leaves a very discernable pattern which, when you start working in close or blowing things up in a photo print, is not so desirable. therefore, i ran a .jpg artifact removal, almost before anything else, to get rid of this pattern. | 
04-28-2007, 10:56 PM
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| | | Re: Photo Restoration - 1922 Photo A quick fix
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