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Old 09-26-2007, 09:37 PM
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Re: Sepia or B&W

generally speaking, i do the way murray does, convert to b&w and then work. this has several advantages. contrasting is generally easier. more filters and automated processes will work better on a straight b&w and, it's generally easier to see more of the image. just make sure you simply desaturate rather than take it to true 8 bit grayscale. taking it to true grayscale will make it more difficult as you lose the extra channels.

and, if you're doing this for a client, always make sure you consult the client as to what they want as the finished end result.
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:05 AM
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Re: Sepia or B&W

The blue channel in RGB is very dark. If you brighten it up, the sepia tone appears. I'm not sure if it's original.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:00 AM
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Re: Sepia or B&W

Hi Ben,

Old photos were originally shot in B&W then had the silver content removed to create the sepia tone. This produced a very long lasting image. So technically, all images are shot in B&W
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:48 AM
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Re: Sepia or B&W

I think first thing is to know the date of the photograph,I find when asking certain questions DATING the photo is very important.If this photo is from the late 1800s it is probably not B&W or maybe not even SEPIA,its probably been printed on a very warmtone paper (dark beige to light brown Maybe,which would give it a sepia look and with age become darker


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Old 09-29-2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: Sepia or B&W

going back to your original question here, ben, my simple answer would be, if you want historical accuracy, do try to date the image and then date the photographic processes involved and being used around that date. but, dont just date, you also have to place the location. if this was in europe the processes may well be different than if it was taken in the united states.

but, if you're trying to make a specific client happy, then go for what they want. sometimes that will coincide with history and sometimes not.

and just as a guess, pure guess, i'd place your photo around 1890 to 1910, quite possibly europe. you might try our history forum for more help on this. i'm NOT an expert
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:21 AM
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Re: Sepia or B&W

At the moment I'm still practising restoration/repair with a view of taking it up as a sideline, so this site and all your suggestions are very useful.
At present I'm using a bunch of old photos that I've collected, purely for practice material.
I anticipate that most of the potential customers will be those that have caught the Ancestry bug so historical accuracy may be less important to them than an enhanced image.
In the end, as Kraellin says, it's about keeping the client happy. Also, a pretty good understanding of historical processes is useful - something else for me to study
Well, I've started cleaning the photo now (attached) so I'll consider toning once I've finished.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:43 AM
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Re: Sepia or B&W

Oops! I posted the un-straightened version
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:33 PM
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lookin good
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