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Old 12-15-2007, 12:32 PM
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Any ideas please?

I got this photo to work on but I haven't a clue on how to get the faces cleaned up. Anyone have any ideas?
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Old 12-15-2007, 12:54 PM
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Re: Any ideas please?

Hi QuietJan.

This is a tough one.

There is very little that can be done with this.

Please could you rescan the image in colour and re post the image in colour then we may be able to help more

Ken.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:38 PM
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Re: Any ideas please?

Jan

Ken is right - did u scan it?
Is it a negative or a print?
Is the picture really that bad?

The face detail is completely lost - so no information could be recovered.

If the oriinal picture isn't that bad - then try scanning at different levels - That is one overexposed to compensate for the shadows and one underexposed for the highlights.

Then combine in photoshop.

Look for High Dynamic Range (HDR) tutorials on the web.

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Old 12-17-2007, 01:40 PM
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No I didn't scan this. It was sent to me in email just the way it is. Is there nothing I can do with it this way? Maybe I can ask the person who owns the photo to rescan it using your suggestions.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:20 PM
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Hi QuietJan!

Welcome to RetouchPRO!!!

I have to agree with Ken and Tmax100... I tried minimizing the jpg artifacts and zoom in just to see if there was something...anything that could be recovered .... no go ...

IMO, depending on the conditions of the original, a rescanning could be the only possibility...
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:08 PM
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Was looking for a glimer of detail also... NOPE, couldn't see much!
Would love to see your solution QuietJan
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:08 PM
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this one is not totally impossible, but it's certainly missing some key bits, particularly the gentleman's eyes. those can be built, if you're really devoted to fixing this, but bear in mind that reconstructions are a TON more difficult and always full of uncertainty, since you're mostly guessing.

i can see the end of his nose and it does appear he's wearing horn-rimmed glasses. i can also make out the mouth and ear. but the eyes and eyebrows are shot. you can make out pretty closely where the eyes shld be, though.

the way i found these features was to convert the image to 8 bit rgb rather than b&w, then duplicated the background and used various blend modes to bring out some of the detail. no single blend mode did it all, though 'screen' in psp worked pretty well and dodge blends in ps worked fairly well.

the baby isnt in quite so bad a shape, but it's still going to take some work. you can make out the eyes on the child.

all in all, though, you're looking at a VERY tough restore/reconstruction.
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Old 12-18-2007, 07:27 PM
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this one is not totally impossible, but it's certainly missing some key bits, particularly the gentleman's eyes. those can be built, if you're really devoted to fixing this, but bear in mind that reconstructions are a TON more difficult and always full of uncertainty, since you're mostly guessing.

i can see the end of his nose and it does appear he's wearing horn-rimmed glasses. i can also make out the mouth and ear. but the eyes and eyebrows are shot. you can make out pretty closely where the eyes shld be, though.

the way i found these features was to convert the image to 8 bit rgb rather than b&w, then duplicated the background and used various blend modes to bring out some of the detail. no single blend mode did it all, though 'screen' in Paint Shop Pro worked pretty well and dodge blends in Photoshop worked fairly well.

the baby isnt in quite so bad a shape, but it's still going to take some work. you can make out the eyes on the child.

all in all, though, you're looking at a VERY tough restore/reconstruction.
Wow Craig... I'm always amazed by the power of Photoshop ... but to rebuild a face (never seen) in a credible/acceptable way having only the tip of a nose, the shape of a ear, the probable position of where-the-eyes-should-be to work on, and no other picture of the same subject to use for grafting, is really beyond me .... so, my total admiration for anyone capable of doing it!!!
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Old 12-18-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: Any ideas please?

I probably "could hang on" for a while to the left ear, but that's all.
I am afraid Flora makes good points.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:33 AM
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but to rebuild a face (never seen) in a credible/acceptable way
well, that's the trick, isnt it it's really a forensic sort of thing. you take known values and work from there, the outline of a face, a jaw, the tip of a nose, the depression at the side of a face, the distortion of a partial pair of glasses and so on and build from there. that it might be credible or acceptable...well, you and i both remember 'tub girls'. that one beat me up pretty badly
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