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Old 03-21-2008, 06:48 AM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

Try scanning it TWICE once for higlights once for shadow detail then sandwich them together

Also remember if there is no information there then trying to put it in might make the highlights muddy looking
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:17 AM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

Here is my try

I used curve.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:17 PM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

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Here is my try

I used curve.
Nice! that seemed to bring out the most detail in the face thus far. I tried curves just now and am not getting the same. Any suggestions?
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:20 PM
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Just tried to burn a little shading into face... unfortunately i'm no artist!
Tried a colourised version as well.
How do you colourize? I would love to try that out sometime. Good job, only slight criticism is that he is black hence his skin tone should be darker
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:24 PM
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Try scanning it TWICE once for higlights once for shadow detail then sandwich them together

Also remember if there is no information there then trying to put it in might make the highlights muddy looking
No idea how I would scan for highlights vs scanning for shadow detail. The scan seems to produce the same picture all of the time.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:47 PM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

Hi my try,

several multiply copies on top, curves and highpass - only looking for face details though
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:27 PM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

Here's a shot.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:11 PM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

ok, let's take this in steps. whenever you see an image like this which is blown out from poor exposure at the time taken or from damage over time, you want to look at the histogram. if you dont know what a histogram is, it's time to get out the photoshop or paint shop pro dictionaries and find out. it's important.

at first, i actually tried levels but soon realized from looking at that that the histogram was messed up. so, we correct for that first. in this image, all data were to the right and scrunched up. that's not good. that means that all your data areas are not filled. it's sort of like compressing all the light data down into one area of your light palette. i'm using a metaphor here, so bear with me. and the solution is to un-scrunch it, separate it back out to the rest of the palette of the histogram. you want data, in this particular case, to be spread out across the histogram. the tool for this is the histogram adjustment tool. photoshop and paint shop pro both have this tool.

ok, first we make a duplicate of the background layer on top of the background layer. to the duplicate we call up the histogram adjustment tool. and you'll see what i'm talking about that the data are all in one area, not spread out like they shld be. so, i simply moved the left most slider over to just left of the where the actual data starts. and then i adjusted the middle slider a bit. in psp, there is another slider on the right side, a vertical slider. i moved this up quite a bit. then i simply adjusted all sliders more finely to give me what i wanted. i didnt move the gamma adjustment at all. and i didnt move the top or bottom limiters either.

now, remember, this is just a first step. this is simply adjusting the light levels back to something like when the photo was taken. it does NOT correct the blown out face, though it does bring out some detail. and this is all just the first step and a very easy step. we'll attempt to correct the face and other blown out areas separately in another step.

also bear in mind that my monitor's gamma may be a touch off right now since i was using it for something else today and havent reset it yet. but this shld be close enough to show you what i've done.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:15 PM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

and here's a screenshot of the histogram adjustment tool in use. and when i mentioned those first sliders, i meant those little triangles below the histogram. they act like a levels adjust.

notice the histo data are like i said, scrunched up and over on the right.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:18 PM
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Re: How to get more detail out of face

ok, now this is after the histo adjust and with the histo sliders reset to 0. notice how the data is now more spread out across the spectrum.

i'm a little surprised more folks dont use this very versatile tool more often.
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