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Old 03-25-2008, 10:29 AM
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Need richer, vivid background

Hi,

Wondering if anyone could give me some suggestions on how to improve the background in this photo. All the focus is on the helicopter, but I'd like the background to be much richer -- more vivid color, etc. I usually try Multiply on a duplicate copy of the layer but doesn't work very well here. I'm definitely not good at this type of editing so am looking for suggestions!

http://www.rotor.com/temp/HollywoodLAHelicopter_056.jpg

Thanks, Phyllis
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

Hi, Phyllis

Convert to LAB mode. Do a Levels or Curves adjustment on the lightness channel for overall saturation. You can also play with the A & B channels if you want to shift some colors. Return it to RGB when you like what you've got and go from there.

This adjustment took me about 1 minute.
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:55 AM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

Thanks I'm trying. It seems like I can get it a lot darker, but the colors are so dull. I liked the colors in this one a lot better (only not the position of the helicopter):

http://www.rotor.com/temp/LAHelicopter_040.jpg

I wonder if I'd do better to try to move the helicopter in that one? That's a lot of cropping and cloning though. I'm not sure what to do with the A and B channels though I don't seem to get anywhere with just the lightness. Should I try to mask the helicopter and then try it?

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Old 03-25-2008, 11:25 AM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

Phyllis,

When you go to LAB mode and do a curves adjustment You have 3 options in the Pop up. Lightness, A & B channels. You make adjustments by sliding the corner ponts (slide right for the lower left point, slide left for the upper right point.

Lightness controls contrast over all.
The A channel controls the amount of RED and GREEN
The B channel controls BLUE and YELLOW

Sliders work the same in the A&B channels. For your pic, you want to add shadow detail in the Lightness channel. Add lots of blue and a touch of yellow in the B channel and add just a touch of green in the A channel. My screen shots will give you an idea of how much I adjusted for this picture.
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:32 AM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

Thanks!!!

I'll follow your suggestions and see what else I can get.

I appreciate the help!!!!!!!! And thanks for the toolbar screenshots. Really nice of you. :-)

Phyllis
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:10 PM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

Swampy has given you a great way to improve your image
(thanks swampy i am saving your screen shots for myself )

To get my results i used a action from here

http://www.photographybb.com/actions/

it is the image punch actions for download i then selected the contrast punch

There are probably a few more actions you could use as well

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Old 03-25-2008, 12:16 PM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

Here's my attempt:
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:07 PM
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Wow, thanks guys! I'll check out the action too. :-)

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Old 03-25-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

These are all huge helps, and I really like the contrast punch action. I'm saving that actions link. I used the LAB info stuff too. :-)

Thanks again,
Phyllis
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:39 PM
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Re: Need richer, vivid background

Phyllis,

Like Swampy, I did this in Lab mode - but a little differently. First thing after conversion to Lab, I used Image>Apply Image (source background layer Lab channel, soft light blending mode, 100% opacity). This punched up the background a fair amount. Then I used a curves adjustment layer to tweak the contrast in both the vegetation and the helicopter (screen shots attached).

Just another set of moves to add to your toolkit . . .

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