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Old 07-03-2008, 05:19 AM
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Re: Poor quality source complicates restoration

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greg,

ok, trust me, i know where you're coming from as far as perfectionism

here's something else you can try that sometimes works pretty well. take your image as far as you can with the normal filter fixes and when you get to the part where you can no longer help it with filters and need to do hand work, go ahead and do that, but, take that work's final image and go back to the part where you ended the filter work and add the painted one right over the top of that filter layer and try some blend modes. with the right mode you can often get the best of both techniques. try this blending with different opacities on the layers, too.

here's an example of that technique. it's still noisy, but not as bad as the original or even the filtered version and could be cleaned up further and retains a lot of the original image's 'photo quality' without the painted look.

and, just a thought that i havent tried yet with your image is, try separating the channels and see what that produces. you can always add back the color later.
Kraellin,

Thanks for the followup suggestions. I did try separating the channels, but that failed to improve the image. I even tried a variant of what you're suggesting. I extracted the two figures, worked them separately, and then overlaid them back on the whole image. I didn't, however, readjust the opacity. That may be the "missing link". I'll give that a try.

Regarding the "fuzziness" that's been plagueing all of us, I believe the low ambient light fooled the old camera to auto-focus on the background wall corner where there is a significant edge with good contrast instead of on the intended subjects.

Thanks again.

Greg
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:57 PM
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Re: Poor quality source complicates restoration

ok, this is probably my last shot at this. i purposely took to heart what you said about my first one being too painted. so, in this one, i did a lot less clone, less airbrush, less smudge and left some of the roughness in the photo, particularly in the high noise shadows and rather than remove it, i simply smoothed things up a bit.

also, at the end, i did a copy merge of everything i had and paste to new layer. i then went and turned off all the layers beneath that except the background layer and used a blend mode on the top layer. this mollified the hand work even more and brought back some of the original grain/noise, but i figured this would be ok in trying to keep a more natural look. i actually did this twice, taking the result of the first one and blending it again with a different blend mode.

this isnt perfect, but it may suit your requirements a little closer.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:12 AM
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Re: Poor quality source complicates restoration

Craig, that looks pretty darn good to me. I think you've got this one about as sharp as it's going to get. It looks very light on my montor but I've already said that I think my calibration is off.
Nice work.
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Old 07-04-2008, 05:35 AM
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Craig, that looks pretty darn good to me. I think you've got this one about as sharp as it's going to get. It looks very light on my montor but I've already said that I think my calibration is off.
Nice work.
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Nan and Craig,

I agree. It is a bit too light for my taste too, but it does look like your best effort with this image. NOW I'm going to relook all the suggestions and take one more shot myself. I'll post the result for your final critique..

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Old 07-04-2008, 11:04 PM
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Re: Poor quality source complicates restoration

thank you, nan yes, it is a bit bright/ i think my gamma was off a bit when i did that one. but, it's easy to darken it a bit.

thanks, greg. looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:17 AM
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Re: Poor quality source complicates restoration

A very tough one, i am no pro , but it was good to have a play,

thanks

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Old 07-08-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Poor quality source complicates restoration

It's been crazy last week and this week, so I've been slow on the "re-do" (in case you've been checking). I will get it done and repost (hopefully next week). I've taken a quick look around this topic and noticed a lot of really neat projects going on, and also noted that many of you who jumped in on mine are also taking on some of these others. It's really inspiring to see all the efforts to help others. I think I'd like to join you as I have some time. So, see you all around the Photo Restoration threads.

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