RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Restoration
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Photo Restoration Repairing damaged photos

Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-29-2009, 12:19 PM
djmulls djmulls is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Hey Guys

First off I would like to say thank you for all the help you have given other people, its been invaluble for me to get as far as I have.

I am working on a badly damaged image and as its the first image I am ever restoring, challenging is probably the wrong word, for me anyway. I have included a copy of where I am up to and I know I have a long way to go.

Anyway, I am after some advice on how to proceed from where I am at the moment:

1: What would be a good way to deal with the mirror in the background of the image? I have been kinda focusing on the head as the biggest issue, but getting as far as I have, I realised filling the mirror may actually be worse.


2: I've been removing the cracks semi-successfully, however if I go any further I start to lose details like the necklace and other bits and pieces around the picture. What would be the best way forward?

I have been using a combination of the Dust and Scratches Filter, the Polaroid Dust and Scratch filter, the Median filter and a few others. To be honest I have gone over this picture so many times I can't actually say which tools / filters I have used in this version of the pic.

One thing I haven't been able to do is use the Find Edges filter. Once run I have no idea how to modify it and get back to the original image. Sorry, this kinda shows up my lack of Photoshop knowledge.


3: Looking at the other posts, how does it take some of you guys 10 minutes to remove all the little cracks that I have been working on all weekend!!! And mine is still covered it little crack!

I always knew the small cracks would be an issues, I just didn't think how much of an issue. I thought the big cracks would be much worse, but those I kinda sail through without to much trouble at all.

I also have a folder on my hard drive with 1gb's worth of versions of this image, where I keep going over and starting again and saving it off before I make mistakes.


Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks
David
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Pic1-working.jpg (89.8 KB, 180 views)
File Type: jpg Pic1.jpg (96.4 KB, 174 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #2  
Old 03-29-2009, 02:56 PM
crazyfly1's Avatar
crazyfly1 crazyfly1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Colorado Springs Co. USA
Posts: 733
Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Dj,
Welcome to Retouchpro.
You have done a fine job so far. Imo the answer to your questions depends on what you are restoring the picture for and where you want to take it. If the restore is supposed to bring the image to "perfect" then you still have some work cut out for you and the best suggestion I can really make is be prepared to spend a lot of time zoomed in at 1000% with the various tools.
If this is a family picture that you are bringing back to presentable, then I'd say your about done. From here I would fix the rest of the cracks in the clothing, flip the head on the man and make him have a whole head. Do a slight bit of cleaning up on the skin. I like the reflection in the mirror, I believe you have the image of the person who took the photo in the mirror, neat. You removed the radiator on the right (or is that just a crop you did to post here?) I would leave that in. As for the reflection that is missing...
Hmmm, best I could say is flip the image and use the existing reflection, blur it and you will at least have a background that matches.
Again, great job so far.
Reply With Quote top
  #3  
Old 03-29-2009, 03:56 PM
djmulls djmulls is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

The picture is more me / my dad who is the person in the picture. I have no idea how he stored these pictures, but obviously badly!

The angle of the picture suggests its at ~45 degrees so it wouldn't have the person taking the photo, but I really like your idea of flipping the side I have and using it on the other side. That didn't occur to me at all and yet its so obvious!

The only idea I had come up with was to put a border on the mirror and then blacken out the rest and make it look like a wall, but I didn't particularly like that idea.

I did crop the radiator as the original image is very badly damaged down that side and as it wasn't the focus of the photo I cut it out. Saying that, the camera focus does seem to have been on that radiator because its surprisingly clear around that point.

Thanks for your help
Reply With Quote top
  #4  
Old 03-30-2009, 02:57 AM
crazyfly1's Avatar
crazyfly1 crazyfly1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Colorado Springs Co. USA
Posts: 733
Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Hey David, I attached what caught my eye in the mirror. Could be a man with a camera? Of course, it could be a lot of other things...what was it about the wizard of oz one of the little people hanging from a tree in the background of one scene? Turns out it was a goose. Man, thats one piece of useless trivia that could clear space for something else in my old brain.
Anyway, I would like to see what you come up with as you progress with this image. You've done a fantastic job so far, it's obviously a labor of love for you.
The radiator, I'd keep it just because it's there and it's part of the history, and your children or grand children won't have a clue what a radiator was, nice conversation piece.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Pic1.jpg (78.5 KB, 97 views)

Last edited by crazyfly1; 03-30-2009 at 02:58 AM. Reason: cuz I can't spell, dangit
Reply With Quote top
  #5  
Old 03-30-2009, 12:54 PM
albatrosss's Avatar
albatrosss albatrosss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 267
Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

My shot at it. Will try to list steps if interested
Attached Images
File Type: jpg pic-1-for-web.jpg (99.4 KB, 129 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #6  
Old 03-30-2009, 05:48 PM
djmulls djmulls is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Wow that picture of my dad scares me :P

It looks complete, but it also looks like someones been drawing on the wall. What did you use as a background?

The pic of my dad I am going to use another photo for. It will require flipping around a little, but I should get as close to my dads likeness as possible.

I am interested in how you did the background though.
Reply With Quote top
  #7  
Old 04-01-2009, 11:47 PM
albatrosss's Avatar
albatrosss albatrosss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 267
Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Sorry about the scare.

1 I cleared the blank part of the photo
2 Found a photo on line that had a mirror reflection and cropped it.
3 Dragged to photo and sized it to cover the blank spot
4. Used a mask and then painted to fill the blank area
5 Sampled the color in the photo and painted over the mirror to get what I wanted colorwise.
6. I then blurred that section using a filter
Reply With Quote top
  #8  
Old 04-06-2009, 05:41 PM
djmulls djmulls is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Cool, thanks for the update.

I have had to put this on hold for a while due to a family emergency, however as soon as I get anymore done, I shall be posting the results here for you all to see
Reply With Quote top
  #9  
Old 04-08-2009, 02:24 AM
tawnidilly tawnidilly is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 46
Smile Re: Advice on how to deal with a mirror and cracks

Quote:
Originally Posted by djmulls View Post
Cool, thanks for the update.

I have had to put this on hold for a while due to a family emergency, however as soon as I get anymore done, I shall be posting the results here for you all to see
What is in the mirror is the back of their heads.
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Restoration


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved