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Old 07-28-2009, 07:12 AM
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Hi Guys,

It's me again, I am doing another restoration for the same client this time I would like to replace the little chappy's legs, I have managed to replace a whole head of hair on his big sister but I am unable to replace the little chappy'es legs, I would like to be able to give him a proper pair of legs, I've google for similar legs but most are not as chubby as his, I've dragged a pair of legs on the main photo and use layer mask to replace but not succeeded, anyone have any ideas how I can give him proper legs. Please see attached sample. The photo is of 1920.



Many thanks in advance



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Old 07-29-2009, 05:53 AM
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Re: replacing legs

You need to post the full picture.
Still not sure what you want to do ( hide his legs, cover his legs, replace his legs with what, or what) ?????????
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:46 AM
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You need to post the full picture.
Still not sure what you want to do ( hide his legs, cover his legs, replace his legs with what, or what) ?????????
Hi Cupcake,

Thank you for replying much appreciated. I would like if possible to replace the a pair of legs please see attached. I have tried and drag another pair of legs but this child legs are much chubbier and having problems to fit it. Just some explaining would do.

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Old 07-29-2009, 09:19 AM
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Here is the picture,

is this what you want.
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Old 07-29-2009, 10:06 AM
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Hi Cupcake,

Thank you for replying much appreciated. I would like if possible to replace the a pair of legs please see attached. I have tried and drag another pair of legs but this child legs are much chubbier and having problems to fit it. Just some explaining would do.

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Can I ask why you want to replace them? What's wrong with them?
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:32 AM
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Can I ask why you want to replace them? What's wrong with them?

Hi Pixeltek,

Thanks for your reply much appreciated, I just want them to stand out more as I am colouring this photo also. You can see the legs but they are dark I would like them to be seen a bit more if you know what i mean.


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Old 07-29-2009, 11:36 AM
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Here is the picture,

is this what you want.
Hi Cupcake,

You've done a very good job there Thanks very much , but I just want to be able to see the legs a bit more I am colourizing this photo also and the little legs are very dark so nothing will show hence the replacement or make it stand out more, I was thinking of masking a layer of greyscale skin tones on it, perhaps i shall experiment more and see what happen.



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Old 07-30-2009, 10:34 AM
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Re: replacing legs

Helen, why not just select the existing legs and apply an adjustment to lighten them as needed?
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:07 AM
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Helen, why not just select the existing legs and apply an adjustment to lighten them as needed?
Thank you ever so much for your try, I have managed to lighten the legs but it's not as good as you, i've actually mask some greyscale skin on the legs in a new layer but it came out too grainy, I am still experimenting with the legs at the moment.

Would you mind telling me what you've done your results are very good and not grainy at all. Please see my attachement.


Many thanks much appreciated.


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Old 07-30-2009, 12:23 PM
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Helen, the noisy grain, of course, is a consequence of lightening an area that was originally underexposed. What I did was: make a selection of the legs/shorts, jumped to a new layer, applied shadows/highlights adjustment to lighten them, applied filter > noise > reduce noise to kill most of the resulting extra noise, some dodge/burn to adapt.
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:52 PM
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Re: replacing legs

You can also distort the legs to un-chucky them or use the clone tool to thin them out by drawing. I exaggerated the thinning to show it's effects.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:18 PM
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Helen, the noisy grain, of course, is a consequence of lightening an area that was originally underexposed. What I did was: make a selection of the legs/shorts, jumped to a new layer, applied shadows/highlights adjustment to lighten them, applied filter > noise > reduce noise to kill most of the resulting extra noise, some dodge/burn to adapt.

Hi Lonk,

Thank you very much for explaining I shall save this tip in my tutorials file, if you don't mind i've borrowed your fixed version as I could not get the same results I am still fixing the photo and have post a sample on my pbase gallery for more critique.

Many thanks for your try.


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Old 07-30-2009, 01:21 PM
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You can also distort the legs to un-chucky them or use the clone tool to thin them out by drawing. I exaggerated the thinning to show it's effects.
Hi MiningArt,

Thank you very much for your try and interest it is much appreciated, you've done a good job but I am not sure if the little chappy will be happy with his legs less chubbier, would you mind explaining how you've achieve your results.

Many thanks


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Old 07-30-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: replacing legs

Hello Everyone,

I have posted the above original photo and my tried version, I feel the photo could be improve much more and would welcome any critique no matter how bad and would also very much welcome some expert advice on how I can improve the photo. Please see link.

http://www.pbase.com/mstmart/image/115539577/original


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Old 08-02-2009, 06:31 AM
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Re: replacing legs

There are marks under the Father's chair.
Under the necks are grainy, try to blur a little bit. Less then 30%.
Over all good work, looking forward to seeing the colored picture.
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There are marks under the Father's chair.
Under the necks are grainy, try to blur a little bit. Less then 30%.
Over all good work, looking forward to seeing the colored picture.
Hi Cupcake,

Thanks very much for your critique and tips it is much appreciated. I've tried the smudged tool at very low setting 9 strengths and it seems to work well also i've had a go at blurring at 30% that works well too. I will post the finished version for more critiques thanks.


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Hi All,

As promised I am putting a link to the colourized version the photo still work in progress and would like anyone critical eyes, please feel free to let me know what can be improve or need doing.

Many thanks in advance


http://www.pbase.com/mstmart/image/115637523


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hi helen,

the legs shld not be that light. if you look at the lighting on that image, you'll see that the boy's legs shld be in shadow from the man's legs. thus, lightened that much, they have a sort of glow in the dark feel. you can lighten them some, but the extent they've been done now is too much to be believed easily.

in the colorized version, re the legs, added the skin tones darkened the legs again and they look much more natural there, but in the black and white, no.

on your colorizing, the dresses on the two girls to the left is too saturated for a photo of that era. nice job on the skin tones, though
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:57 AM
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hi helen,

the legs shld not be that light. if you look at the lighting on that image, you'll see that the boy's legs shld be in shadow from the man's legs. thus, lightened that much, they have a sort of glow in the dark feel. you can lighten them some, but the extent they've been done now is too much to be believed easily.

in the colorized version, re the legs, added the skin tones darkened the legs again and they look much more natural there, but in the black and white, no.

on your colorizing, the dresses on the two girls to the left is too saturated for a photo of that era. nice job on the skin tones, though
Hi Craig,

Thanks for your reply and critiques it is much appreciated and for your nice comment on skin tones. I've tweaked a bit more on the photo i've darken the over-all photo and de-saturate the dresses also changed the girl dress from blue to a pinkish colour which I agree with Aartist it does compliment the green dress. I have not colourize the floor yet which i am still undecided colouring the books should be easy enough but it's best to tackle the bigger problems i.e the skin tones and clothes, i've post link for the new alterations below and would appreciate any critique.

http://www.pbase.com/mstmart/image/115709981

Many thanks in advance.


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Old 08-04-2009, 06:35 AM
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Re: replacing legs

The legs do look better,
I don't like the black socks on the Father , I would use the brown of the suit.
See, now we are getting picky .
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The legs do look better,
I don't like the black socks on the Father , I would use the brown of the suit.
See, now we are getting picky .
Hi Cupcake,

Thanks for your reply and critiques, the black socks I looked at the original photo the socks do look dark perhaps were dark grey even i might try it brown I shall see, I will change the pink colour as requested by the client I had the girl in blue dress before changing it to pink so I shall convert her dress back to blue again, I can't think of any other colour in 1920 era apart from blue, green, beige/ivory ummm I shall see probably be blue lol, good thing is the client is over the moon very happy with the overall photo.

anyway I shall post the final photo.

cheerio,


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Glad she like it.
You are doing very well on this picture.
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