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Old 11-29-2009, 04:57 AM
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Hi everyone

I'm very new here...just happened to come across the site whilst looking for something completely different!

Anyways, my grandad found a newspaper cutting of his father, as a child, in the BB. I used to be much more into photography than I am now, and I've never really done much in the way of restoration, just very basic contrast, dust & scratches etc.

I don't know the limits of restoration, but to me this is a bit of a lost cause as it is lacking so much detail. I tried to fix it up about a year ago, but have since lost my work - thankfully still had the original scan! All I was able to do was make it look black and white instead of yellow, and fill in the hole in the top right.

I'd really love to have the best possible restoration done before Christmas so I can give it to him as a surprise.

I'm not asking people to do the work for me, but any advice will be unbelievably well received I have access to Photoshop CS4 at work, but that is it, and I know a lot of you seem to use other programs. Realistically I have to use Photoshop as I can't afford to buy any software at the moment.

I uploaded the original scan to deviantart. Here is a link;

http://tinyurl.com/ygyheud

Please get in touch if you have any advice at all

Many thanks,

Kenny
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: Hopeless case?

I've just spent an age trying everything I know, and it still looks awful. There is so little detail in the image that making it black and white, with a higher contrast is about all I can do with it. Grrr...frustration...
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:39 AM
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Re: Hopeless case?

I can appreciate your frustration, as too many faces are mere smudges. I don't think I could achieve a result that would make me happy, and would tell a client to save their money.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:56 AM
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haha, thanks

That makes me feel a little better anyway!
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:04 AM
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Re: Hopeless case?

Kenny, Welcome to RetouchPRO! Hope you enjoy your stay here and make lots of friends. Poke around, ask questions, have fun!

It sounds as if you do not have the original clipping any more. If you did, it would be nice if you re-scanned the clipping with all the automatic settings turned OFF ( Flair, Ice, sharpening, contrast etc,,) these can be done in Photoshop much more selectively and in restorations it is nice to have as much starting detail as possible.

It looks as though the dust and scratch software within the scanner has obliterated a lot of essential detail.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:57 AM
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...it would be nice if you re-scanned the clipping with all the automatic settings turned OFF ( Flair, Ice, sharpening, contrast etc,,)...
Good eye. Agree... it almost appears to me as if the original was scanned with ICE activated.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:44 PM
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Re: Hopeless case?

Thanks olbaldy!

As far as I know, it was just a straight forward scan. I have the original cutting, but it's a few hundred miles away at the mo! The print is from 1906, so I think the lack of detail is just how it is on the original, as all the dark areas have faded slightly, but also there seemed to be a kind of wear on the paper from where it had been folded, printed side against print... if you know what I mean?

In brief... the original is no better
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:53 PM
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Thanks olbaldy!

As far as I know, it was just a straight forward scan.
In brief... the original is no better
In 1906 halftones had spread their wings and were pretty much universal and this print shows no vestiges of the dots.. thats why I thought the scanners automatic settings may have obliterated the halftones and caused a sort of blur.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:05 PM
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Hmmm, I'm pretty sure it was that bad, but now I'm starting to doubt myself...
I can check when I'm back home for Christmas.
In the mean time, I might as well just do the best I can

Cheers for all the info OlBaldy / Southbay!

I'll let you know what the original was really like when I see it again
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:33 PM
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Re: Hopeless case?

seems the guys have pretty much covered things and i agree, get the original and rescan at the highest possible settings with nothing extra turned on on the scanner. you might also try taking a photo using a backlight, one that shines through the newsprint a bit and would thus possibly bring out some more detail. that's not a guarantee, but might work. you'd then use a camera to take the 'scan'.

i've never really done a survey on this, but offhand i'd say the biggest single problem we have with restorations here is the scan or the posting of too small a picture. your post on the other site was fine, so let's see if we can get a better scan
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