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Old 10-19-2010, 07:53 AM
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Hey Tom, please dont apologise. I cant thank you enough. I often find it difficult (usually impossible) to transpose written tutorials onto something I am trying to achieve, so to have someone show me on my image is invaluable. I ran a successful company for 30 years and thought I was reasonably intelligent. Photoshop has changed that opinion! I spent 3 hours yesterday trying to achieve something on a colorization!

Thank you again.

Mark
Thanks Mark. You seem to be more than capable in Photoshop so no need to be modest.
As for colorization, I may be of some assistance, provided you think my sample is acceptable.
Here's an image I colorized in response to a colorization request post.
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/mem...fix-collar.jpg

The thread is here:
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...n-problem.html

If you like it, I can do a Youtube video with your image if you haven't already completed it to your satisfaction.
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Tom
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Old 10-19-2010, 08:38 AM
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very nice, designer!
Thanks very much.
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Old 10-24-2010, 03:04 AM
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If you like it, I can do a Youtube video with your image if you haven't already completed it to your satisfaction.
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Tom
Tom, could I take up your offer on this one please?. I am trying to colorize this one and would appreciate knowing how you would approach this. I am planning to give this my second cousin who is the daughter of the bride & groom in this image, for her 80th birthday next month, so I would really like to make a good job of it in subtle colours of the period.

http://markwebb.smugmug.com/photos/1...1_Pbx3y-X3.jpg

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Old 10-24-2010, 09:07 PM
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Re: Technique for dealing with background

maverick,

first and foremost, do a good restore BEFORE trying to colorize! trying to do both at once can be done, but shld only be done by a very accomplished artist/restorer.

clean the specks. use polaroid dust and scratches filter or a decent noise reducer.

even the lighting. there are too dark areas and too white. try and balance those up with the whole.

the woman on the right is a little blurred. a usm filter shld help that area. just select the area and apply the filter or use a sharpen tool if you have one.

it's a great picture. take your time and have fun
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:30 PM
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Mark,
I'm making a video now.

Craig, thanks for the tip on polaroid dust and scratches.
The demo on their site looks promising but i couldn't get it to work properly on first try.

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Old 10-25-2010, 02:36 AM
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maverick,

first and foremost, do a good restore BEFORE trying to colorize! trying to do both at once can be done, but shld only be done by a very accomplished artist/restorer.

clean the specks. use polaroid dust and scratches filter or a decent noise reducer.

even the lighting. there are too dark areas and too white. try and balance those up with the whole.

the woman on the right is a little blurred. a usm filter shld help that area. just select the area and apply the filter or use a sharpen tool if you have one.

it's a great picture. take your time and have fun
Great tips again, thank you Craig. All makes sense. I couldn't find the Polaroid Dust & Scratch filter, looks like it may no longer be available?
I use Neat Image which I think works well. Sometimes I think it can take out too much detail but I think it works well with this?

http://markwebb.smugmug.com/photos/1...6_QpfJW-XL.jpg

Your suggestion of a US filter shield - do you mean to select the area and apply the Unsharp Mask>
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:37 AM
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Mark,
I'm making a video now.

Craig, thanks for the tip on polaroid dust and scratches.
The demo on their site looks promising but i couldn't get it to work properly on first try.

Tom
Thanks Tom, I look forward to it.
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:58 AM
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Re: Technique for dealing with background

here's my take on the image (stayed up till 5am getting this recorded and uploaded)

it should play in fullscreen mode and 720p

parts 1-3 are prepping the image for colorizing:
sharpen, noise and dust removal, fix imbalance of lights and darks, lower brightness on too bright areas, add vignette to focus attention on the subjects

part for is beginning of colorize
i didn't do whole image as what I did on one person could be done for rest of image

part1 http://www.youtube.com/v/zMqhbDYsXqs&fmt=22
part2 http://www.youtube.com/v/yY6MFjknHuA&fmt=22 fixed link
part3 http://www.youtube.com/v/7G3x85dxhsM&fmt=22
part4 http://www.youtube.com/v/-rBppXw6xak&fmt=22

Hope this helps. Tell me if anything is unclear.

Craig, would like your feedback if you have a chance.

Tom

Last edited by designer74; 10-25-2010 at 07:06 PM. Reason: update urls
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:05 PM
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Tom, I am soooh grateful to you. That is so informative to watch you useing PS and on MY image That has helped me so much with the use of PS and in particular the use of layers which I have had such a problem getting my head around from written tutorials.

Just one thing.......pts 2 & 3 are the same video. Did you deal with the background in Pt3?

Fantastic pal.....thank you.

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Old 10-25-2010, 05:53 PM
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Re: Technique for dealing with background

i'll fix that link
thx for the heads up

as for the video, I didn't explain everything I was doing as I did for the sake of time. So if there's something you're unclear on such as masking parts of an image, I'll be happy to make a video on that.

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