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Old 05-02-2011, 02:13 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

After levels adjustments I would do some colors matching.
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:20 AM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

My first impression was that your file has a large amount of detail and color information, but the scan is bad. Your scanner should be able to bring you to a better starting point.

My second thought was that the era the photo seems to have been taken did provide some strange colors for clothing. During the 1960s and 70s there was a brownish maroon type of color that was popular in men's pants ( particularly bellbottoms). I believe this is the case with the gentleman's pants. I would get the shirt colors right and let the pants go where they may.

I attached a file that I believe should be representative of the starting point that your scanner should be providing.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:10 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

Quick dumb question

I see many scanned pictures here all leaning towards this lovely nasty yellow cast which i assume is the UV coating Kodak put on their prints in times past.

Since it gets in the way of scanners only would it not be easier to forgo scanning and shoot these with a good camera as cameras are blind to this coating.

Seems like it would save a lot of work.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:32 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

Interesting question and not sure that I know the answer but it is my opinion that in these old colour prints no UV coating was employed. Apart from the possibility that the paper base was not a 'pure white' I think it more likely that the yellowing effect is due to uneven fading of the medium. This effect is due to dye stability in manufacture and will be affected by storage i.e. heat, light, dark, humidity etc. The Yellow, Magenta and Cyan dyes likely to fade at different rates which increase the apparent yellow stain.

I cannot see (although have not tried!) that shooting in camera vs scanning will have any real effect as the camera should record what you actually see in the print
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:07 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

Set the white point and black point in curves and reduced the yellow slightly in hue & saturation.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:29 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

Having run a service bureau specializing in image capture with very expensive hi-res scanners (drum scanners and flatbeds). I am talking about 40-50K scanners - I can tell you that with a good scanner, along with premium software, you can virtually filter out anything. With that said, with less and less originals (transparencies, negatives, c-prints), we began doing more and more image capture of original artwork (Paintings, etc. that could NOT go on a drum or fit in a flatbed) with our cameras. AND as the cameras got better (hi-res professional cameras) they certainly proved capable of capturing great detail, but really lacked the ability and bells and whistle in the scanners for color correcting, neutralizing scans, etc.. Also, it has been my experience that you have to shoot the original in a professional manner. mounted flat, with strobes lights, slow exposures, large apertures (best detail). Also works best when filling your full frame (pixel chip) and using your sharpest fixed lens.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:35 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

I might add that I am seeing a lot of different results from playing with this image (and not necessarily going back and rescanning the original). While folks are getting "different" results from incorporating differing techniques - none are necessarily "BETTER". Just different. Actually, some are worse.
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:09 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

agreed
takes expensive toys to do things right

but its a great way to wast time

the yellow borders are the clue
scanner is weird-ed out
color space is whacked
not much to work with
it would be nice to see a picture of the picture

i dont want to date myself but i was printing color when kodak first released it to the general populace
it was a big change from dektol and yellow safe lights!
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:12 PM
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Re: Severe color cast problems

Not that it means much but i have a few pics of myself shortly after returning from nam
same weird purple brown cast cast to the pants and clothes

not much to do but recolor using the guessamatic approach.
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