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Old 06-29-2011, 11:05 AM
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So much fading and noise

This has become the photo that might drive me crazy. I am trying to finish my genealogy book and off and on I have worked on this photo for weeks. I will include the original and where I am so far. I did scan the original 1.5 x 2" at 1200. I have tried several versions for the restore and decided on taking a photo of a home and background that was of the same period and replacing the background. I probably have 15 layers including all kinds of adjustment layers etc. Of course the cloning tool has been a huge part of this.The bottom of my family is so far gone, I'm not sure what my next choice is. After having restored and repaired at least 30 photos, I am ready to just put it in the book as is. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Old 06-29-2011, 11:28 AM
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Re: So much fading and noise

Put a larger picture on
http://imageshack.us/
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:52 AM
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Re: So much fading and noise

Since I never done restoration, this is just my observation. I know this is not an easy task. First, your idea of changing the background is a good one, but the result does not look in context, specially the 2 persons at the left, with a very pronounced difference on their hair. The difference between the 2 photos is very noticeable at that part. If I were to do this job (just the way I see it, not even going to try, hehe) is to darken and sharpen (a bit) the lower part, (maybe you could use a vignette there) and work just a little bit at the upper part, in other words I'll try to match the tones of the picture as a whole, I think in this case less is more.

The person at the right, needs a bit more of definition on his left arm (it looks blurry).
Perhaps another choice is to lighten the hair of the persons at the left on your new version in order to make them blend better with your new background.

Again, this is just an observation...
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:59 AM
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Re: So much fading and noise

Hi Cupcake

Personally having doing some restoration for genealogy most viewers of your work may understand that these are old pictures and may not be in the best of shape.

Doing a background as you have. often is a distraction (hard to not look like it was Photoshopped. I suggest:

- crop the original for balance (example below yet choose what suits you)
- focus on repair for the faces first
- clothing second priority (less important)
- and background last (can just be smoothed out)

It will draw the attention to what is most important to your audience.

All IMHO of course.

Then don't sweat it too much. And BTW, it would be a wonderful labor of love even taking the picture as just the original and putting it in. Image below was just cropped with no other work.

Sherwood-and-family-org-lr-rp=cropped.jpg
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:08 PM
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Re: So much fading and noise

John: I'd say that you hit the dot. Although small, the cropped sample looks great... Less is more...
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:28 PM
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Re: So much fading and noise

Yep, might be enough to clean up stains, dust and scratches, and leave it fairly. Maybe some curves/levels to get some of the contrast back.
Old pictures have a certain charm when they are far from perfect

If you wanted to clean it up more, that is also good (but a lot of work as you say). I would perhaps darken their clothing some, and do some more work on the noise (especially on the hair/faces). Make sure it matches the background (or the background matches the foreground). It would be ok to not replace the background at all, and just leave it faded out. It is not the subject of the picture at all, and leaving it faded would help to focus on the people.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:14 PM
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Re: So much fading and noise

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Put a larger picture on
http://imageshack.us/
ditto here
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:21 PM
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Re: So much fading and noise

I have put the original on http://profile.imageshack.us/user/DDD226/.

I will take everyone's suggestion and forget the background, crop-work on faces-and then clothes. Even at high res. I find some of the faces to be a huge challenge ex: my Dad (the man in the very back). His eyelids are pretty bad. The bottom 25% of the 4 family members is so faded, I am not sure how to help that area.

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Old 06-29-2011, 11:40 PM
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Re: So much fading and noise

Sometimes I feel obsessed until I can make progress and this is one of those times. So here is my next try cropping, curves, and then a little smoothing and repair on each face. I also darkened and increased contrast on the right side. I think I'm Ok with giving a little Sepia and letting the aging charm show through. My eyes are crossed, so I'm done for the night.

Thanks for everyone's input.
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:30 PM
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Re: So much fading and noise

Here is another try.
OK here is one for you Chain.
Larger one if wanted.
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