so grainy

[sergio2263]

Hello everyone,

I have a photo which is extremely grainy I would like to restore and colourize it the grain is so bad, I thought of using Photoshop skin brushes on the face using layer mask or borrow and copy and paste from a clean black and white photos.

What would you folks do to the photos? here is the link below

http://www.pbase.com/mstmart/image/137242500

Thanks



helen

[mistermonday]

Helen, with this type of nice you will often have good results with Filter>Noise>Despeckle or Filter>Noise>Dust & Scratches
Regards, Murray

[John Wheeler]

Hi Helen
You can bring TIF and JPG file into Adobe Photoshop ACR in addition to Raw files by just changing the Camera Raw settings under Preferences. Below is your same image going through ACR and in the noise reduction section moving the Luminance Slider to 50 and the Luminance Detail slider to 40. The same panel has sharpening sliders yet did not touch those. It may be worth a try. Here is the image and apologies in advance because I probably should have asked you to use the image:

137242500.Re1EbENB copy.jpg

[sergio2263]

Originally Posted by mistermonday

Helen, with this type of nice you will often have good results with Filter>Noise>Despeckle or Filter>Noise>Dust & Scratches
Regards, Murray

Thanks for your reply I shall have a go at that.

[sergio2263]

Originally Posted by John Wheeler

Hi Helen
You can bring TIF and JPG file into Adobe Photoshop ACR in addition to Raw files by just changing the Camera Raw settings under Preferences. Below is your same image going through ACR and in the noise reduction section moving the Luminance Slider to 50 and the Luminance Detail slider to 40. The same panel has sharpening sliders yet did not touch those. It may be worth a try. Here is the image and apologies in advance because I probably should have asked you to use the image:

Attachment 87999

This is great work thank you for helping, sorry to ask a stupid question what is Adobe ACR? I am using Adobe CS5 is Adobe ACR a plug-ins? I haven't got a clue about Camera Raw but willing to learn.

Would you have the edited image in larger size if you haven't it's fine I don't mind? i'm are willing to follow what you've done myself because I have another bad photo similar to the one I posted the link and would like to have a go at repair that also.


helen

[Britsdad]

Helen,

To open a .JPG or .TIF file in Camera RAW in CS5 go to "file" then "open as" find your image then go to the bottom of the window, to the drop down list "open as" and select Camera Raw, then play to you hearts content.

John

[Boneappetit]

Originally Posted by sergio2263

This is great work thank you for helping, sorry to ask a stupid question what is Adobe ACR? I am using Adobe CS5 is Adobe ACR a plug-ins? I haven't got a clue about Camera Raw but willing to learn.

Would you have the edited image in larger size if you haven't it's fine I don't mind? i'm are willing to follow what you've done myself because I have another bad photo similar to the one I posted the link and would like to have a go at repair that also.


helen

ACR = Adobe Camera Raw

[sergio2263]

Thanks Guys for your replies appreciate it.

helen

[John Wheeler]

Sorry about the delay in responding. I think Britsdad and Boneappetit have most of it covered. Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) sometimes just called Camera Raw by Adobe is built into Photoshop. Historically just for editing incoming Raw files yet as indicated in prior posts or by changing Preferences, you can go right into ACR before Photoshop like a pre-processor. In Preferences, go to the Camera Raw portion. That opens a dialog where at the bottom (CS5) you can choose to enable TIF and/or JPEG files to open in ACR first. I personally like that default setting.

The functionality engine for image modifications in ACR is basically the same as in Lightroom. Very powerful and IMHO much more natural to make modifications for basic images than many of the techniques in Photoshop.

A good starting point is just in the help files. Here is a snapshot of the table of contents of Creative Suite 5 (I bet it is in your help file as well) with an expansion on the Camera Raw section. You can see there is a lot that it covers. Hope you enjoy that added functionality to your tool box.

Screen shot 2011-08-16 at 7.05.34 AM.png

[sergio2263]

Originally Posted by John Wheeler

Sorry about the delay in responding. I think Britsdad and Boneappetit have most of it covered. Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) sometimes just called Camera Raw by Adobe is built into Photoshop. Historically just for editing incoming Raw files yet as indicated in prior posts or by changing Preferences, you can go right into ACR before Photoshop like a pre-processor. In Preferences, go to the Camera Raw portion. That opens a dialog where at the bottom (CS5) you can choose to enable TIF and/or JPEG files to open in ACR first. I personally like that default setting.

The functionality engine for image modifications in ACR is basically the same as in Lightroom. Very powerful and IMHO much more natural to make modifications for basic images than many of the techniques in Photoshop.

A good starting point is just in the help files. Here is a snapshot of the table of contents of Creative Suite 5 (I bet it is in your help file as well) with an expansion on the Camera Raw section. You can see there is a lot that it covers. Hope you enjoy that added functionality to your tool box.

Attachment 88009

No problem at all about the delay I appreciate your help did you use Lightroom for the restore? I've downloaded a trial version of Adobe Lightroom I shall have a try with that.

Would you mind if I ask did you use the noise filter within Photoshop I am not sure about the luminance? can you if possible give me in detail of what you've done please your results is very good and I would like to achieve similar I am willing to learn any tips and tricks.

Many thanks



Helen

[0lBaldy]

A starting point might be to use Polaroid (free) dust and scratch filter
I did this with the light box checked on your full sized image

Give the Gif a couple seconds to change

[John Wheeler]

Originally Posted by sergio2263

No problem at all about the delay I appreciate your help did you use Lightroom for the restore? I've downloaded a trial version of Adobe Lightroom I shall have a try with that.

Would you mind if I ask did you use the noise filter within Photoshop I am not sure about the luminance? can you if possible give me in detail of what you've done please your results is very good and I would like to achieve similar I am willing to learn any tips and tricks.

Many thanks
Helen

Hi Helen
Even through I have Lightroom, I just used ACR to achieve the results. Here are the step by step that you could use (there are other valid approaches as others have mentioned)

- Open Camera Raw Preferences. I did this from my Mac yet I believe Preferences is under "Edit" menu item on the PC (others jump in if this is wrong)
Screen shot 2011-08-16 at 4.41.10 PM.png
- In Camera Raw Preferences set options at bottom to have JPEGs open in ACR before going to Photoshop:
Screen shot 2011-08-16 at 4.41.26 PM.png
- Open your JPEG file and you should see it open in ACR
- Select near upper right the icon that looks like two little mountains (or triangles) to open the following dialog:
Screen shot 2011-08-16 at 4.36.30 PM.png
- I set the luminance slider to 50 and the Luminance detail to 40
- From here you can either "Open Image" to Photoshop or Save Image directly.

That's all I did.

Hope the detail helps.

[sergio2263]

Thanks so much both of you, you Guys are great.

OlBaldy,

I've downloaded the dust and scratch software I shall have a try at using it. I have restored grainy photos before but the one I've posted really beat the rest way than what I could handle without asking how others would handle it.

John,

I really appreciated the detailed explanations and will give it a try also.

helen

[sergio2263]

Ok I've followed both your tips John and Olbaldy. I open the photo in camera raw and follow your instructions John it works wonders then I used the dust and scratch as suggested by OlBaldy that too works great.

The only thing now I don't have your great results OlBaldy there are still a few of white spots did you get rid of the white spot with the PolarDSR dust and scratch?

http://www.pbase.com/mstmart/image/137298141

Thanks Guys

helen

[0lBaldy]

Originally Posted by sergio2263

<clip>OlBaldy there are still a few of white spots did you get rid of the white spot with the PolarDSR dust and scratch?

http://www.pbase.com/mstmart/image/137298141

Thanks Guys

helen

yes, but there were some residual horizontal and vertical lines which were lighter and needed to be cloned/healed/darkened/camouflaged in some way before other repairs were enacted

[sergio2263]

Originally Posted by 0lBaldy

yes, but there were some residual horizontal and vertical lines which were lighter and needed to be cloned/healed/darkened/camouflaged in some way before other repairs were enacted

That is great thanks for the details explanation.



helen