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Old 09-12-2012, 11:58 PM
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Know these could be better ... help? :)

Hello everyone, I haven't been around in a long time, if you can forgive me I would really appreciate some second opinions.

I am in the middle of doing two restorations for a client and feel that these could be better, but I am at my wits end as to what to do. My weakest link has always been hand coloring and I would really appreciate whatever feedback any of you would care to share. I used Ed's technique with these - Thanks Ed!

I have included the originals (shot on a copy stand) so that you can see what I started with. When done these will 16x20 ovals in oval frames with the convex glass so the information in the corners doesn't matter.

Thanks in advance
Roger
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:32 AM
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Re: Know these could be better ... help? :)

I believe your problem is the eyes and the eyebrows.
See the difference .
The hair I used the original background.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:15 AM
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Re: Know these could be better ... help? :)

Well there is more than one color in the face and so the trick is to use several when you are colorizing. So make several layers using color mode and use several different colors.

Another way is to use a gradient mask on the face with a custom gradient. Sample colors from a similar colorized photos and make a gradient to replicate the colors based on the tonality of the B&W photo and use that gradient in a gradient adjustment layer.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:25 PM
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I believe your problem is the eyes and the eyebrows.
See the difference .
The hair I used the original background.
Cupcake - thank you!

it looks like you
-lightened the eye brows
-white of eye is a cream color
-pupil on left used on the right

when you say that you used the original background for the hair ... on her eyebrows or on her head? original means from the before image?

The instructions from the client were 'violet blue eyes like elizabeth taylor, chestnut brown hair, no make up, ecrue color lavender blue dress, fair skin' which was the reason I left the lips fairly nuetral - wasn't sure if I should add a liitle more or not. As light as the dress is I will probably tone it down. I like the color of the background being warmer and more nuetral the way you did it.

thanks again for your help

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Old 09-13-2012, 01:37 PM
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Re: Know these could be better ... help? :)

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Well there is more than one color in the face and so the trick is to use several when you are colorizing. So make several layers using color mode and use several different colors.

Another way is to use a gradient mask on the face with a custom gradient. Sample colors from a similar colorized photos and make a gradient to replicate the colors based on the tonality of the B&W photo and use that gradient in a gradient adjustment layer.
Thanks Philbach!

I did try to pull in different colors, I guess not very successfully. On the man we don't have much midtone in which to see the variation, I tried bringing out a normal tonal range and it kept looking muddy and flat when adjusted to be darker in the light tones, even added some higlights in the skin so that I could get a darker tone on the light side and try to approach a normal pretty tonal range.

On both photos I made the forhead subtly yellower, nose to eybrow redder and nose down cooler (read that theory in a book on painting and it felt right).

When I tried doing even a hint of red in the light tones on the mans face it was glowing pink so I gave that one up, I will try browns and more nuetral tones and I guess I should work on the shadow side of the mans face more.

Thanks again!
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:36 PM
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Cupcake - thank you!

it looks like you
-lightened the eye brows
-white of eye is a cream color
-pupil on left used on the right

when you say that you used the original background for the hair ... on her eyebrows or on her head? original means from the before image?

The instructions from the client were 'violet blue eyes like elizabeth taylor, chestnut brown hair, no make up, ecrue color lavender blue dress, fair skin' which was the reason I left the lips fairly nuetral - wasn't sure if I should add a liitle more or not. As light as the dress is I will probably tone it down. I like the color of the background being warmer and more nuetral the way you did it.

thanks again for your help
I used the original sepia picture to make my work , I did not put in a new background or lighten the eyebrows.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:43 AM
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Re: Know these could be better ... help? :)

Fixed them and delivered. Just wanted to give a final update ...

The big mistake I made was I was wearing my photographer eyes, when cleaning up and adjusting tones I didn't clip but I should have left more detail in the lights and darks. I was treating them like normal photos, I forget sometimes that with old photos like these it can be prettier to keep a softer tonal range.

Thanks again Cupcake!
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:22 AM
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Glad I could help.
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