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Old 07-20-2005, 12:27 AM
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Retouching technique -- portraits and skin

Does anyone know how to duplicate the retouching techniques that are done here:

http://www.houseofphotography.com

He seems to do a good job with keeping detail with the right amount of saturation to make it look pleasant. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:50 AM
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Hi Carlo and welcome to RP!

Could you point us to which photo we are talking about here?

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Old 07-20-2005, 09:15 AM
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examples

Here are 5 samples from his forum I'd like to replicate.... #5 is one where he manipulated a "guest" user's picture to match his own style of retouching.

(NOTE! Clicking on the link doesn't work... you have to RIGHT-CLICK > COPY SHORTCUT manually and PASTE to your browser.)

1. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...77a%5B1%5D.htm

2. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...abe%5B1%5D.htm

3. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...-sm%5B1%5D.htm

4. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...-sm%5B1%5D.htm

5. http://www.portranet.com/cgi-bin/yab...num=1111080864


Of course you need a great picture first, but let's say I can get passed that.

-Carlo

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Old 07-20-2005, 02:38 PM
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Help needed w/ examples - portraits, skin and eyes

I didn't have examples from my previous post, so here it is again w/ examples:

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Does anyone know how to duplicate the retouching techniques that are done here:

http://www.houseofphotography.com

He seems to do a good job with keeping detail with the right amount of saturation to make it look pleasant. It also seems likes he does something with the eyes. Any help would be appreciated.

Examples below:

Here are 5 samples from his forum I'd like to replicate.... #5 is one where he manipulated a "guest" user's picture to match his own style of retouching.

(NOTE! Clicking on the link doesn't work... you have to RIGHT-CLICK > COPY SHORTCUT manually and PASTE to your browser.)

1. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...77a%5B1%5D.htm

2. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...abe%5B1%5D.htm

3. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...-sm%5B1%5D.htm

4. http://www.portranet.com/images/2003...-sm%5B1%5D.htm

5. http://www.portranet.com/cgi-bin/yab...num=1111080864

Of course you need a great picture first, but let's say I can get passed that.

-Carlo
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:59 PM
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Hi Carlo,

I had a look and his pictures are really great! As you said, you need a great picture to start with. My former boss said "You can't turn shit to candies", and that's exactly what's applied to retouching.

Those are highest-quality studio portraits, no cheapo 2Megapixel snapshots. Look at http://www.mensdivision.de . The pic on the first page was my latest job for a magazine cover. Now compare this one to other pictures you want to retouch, see the difference?

The other stuff is just usual beauty-retouching, nothing special. I'm sure some people here can teach you those things easily
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:05 PM
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Dear Carlo,

My guess is there are many who are RP members and visitors who can replicate and exceed the quality of the images you listed. They can do that because they have done three things: Studied, practiced and experimented. And maybe a fourth, they're talented.

I don't mean to be flip, but there isn't any plug-in, action or magic work flow that will immediately get you there. Perhaps of the four qualities I have mentioned, practice may be the most important. I practice on images every day. Many of them I get here at RP and other retouch sites on the internet. This site, I think, is superior because those who have years of practice and experience will often list their work flow for viewers to replicate on images of their own. They also are unselfish with their talent and methods. When my image doesn't look as good as Flora's, Duv's, Gary orVikki's, I'll put it aside and go back to it weeks later. And, surprise, surprise, I've found I have improved. I am a better retoucher and restorer today than I was yesterday. Practice

There are many great books, seminars and sites like this to tap into; but you will have to spend the time.

You will find, over time, that a work style and look all your own will develop. You will be more successful and more satisfied when you have achieved that level.

I don't mean to lecture. I am far from being the guru many here are.

I'm off my soapbox now; fire away.

k
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:51 PM
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Hi Carlo,

Welcome to RP!

I'm merging your two Threads since they are on the same topic...
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:37 PM
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practicing...

Hi All,

I understand that practice is necessary. I just need a place to start. Like for #5, it may be easier, because there is an image I could start with and I know somewhat the final product -- and here's what I basically did -- at least for the face:

1. mask the eyes and teeth, use curves to brighten them up (the teeth I need to work on more to make it whiter)
2. mask the front part of the face, feathered the mask, brighten that area via curves

Attached is the psd. I had to reduce the image size because of the file size limit.

I am curious to see how his other ones could be done -- how skin tone is chosen (maybe through a raw image) and then going through and fixing and lighting the image to make it excellent.

We're all here to learn aren't we?
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Old 07-20-2005, 08:55 PM
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I am no pro, but I recommend this.

Read the book "Photoshop Restoration and Retouching" by Katrin Eismann.

If photography was a religion, this would be its bible.

I bought it from my local Barns and Nobels book store.

You ask for a place to start, and this is it.

The book gives you info that you must learn before getting into high end photography like what you are after. The book also goes into some of the techniques that you are looking for.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but Tone, Contrast, Exposure, and Color is the core to any photo. You must learn how to correct all of these before moving on to professional retouching.


One other piece of advice is practice. I know it is overstated, but that is because it is the biggest key to success in retouching. Alot of times when I am learning something new, I think that I will never get good enough at it. Then after lots of practice, something will click, and I am able to do what I was trying to do. (Like making realistic restoration with the clone tool. )
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Old 07-21-2005, 07:41 AM
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Hi again Carlo,

you got great tips already, and I couldn't agree more with fat0n3s about Katrin Eismann's book(s)!

If I understood you right, you would like to see an example of what can be done to get to those results ... and a starting point/workflow to follow ...

Since I actually toned down contrast and colours, my end-result here might not be what you had in mind ... but mine wasn't meant to be a complete retouch as the finishing touches are simply a matter of personal taste .... I just wanted to show the method I used to get an enhanced but still natural look ...
  1. As you can see from my workflow, (Attachment 2), my first steps where to balance shadows/highlights ... and decrease the Saturation a bit.

  2. Next came the skin ... the Model doesn't have a very smooth skin ... so, I tried 'soften' it without removing all the texture ... An oversmoothed skin tends to look like 'plastic' and very unnatural ... and is a dead giveaway for manipulation ... I used the Median Filter in a similar way as described by MBChamberlain in this Thread..

  3. I used the Patch Tool to remove small blemishes and the mole on her left cheek.

  4. The rest was enhancing eyes mouth etc.

Hope this is what you were asking ...
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