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Old 08-25-2005, 05:59 AM
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Wedding retouch... feedback please :-)

Hi! This is my very frist post here. My sister asked me to retouch her wedding pics. The one posted is the only one I have done so far. I wanted to slim her up without giving the impression that I did. I had to smoothe the front of her dress down. The finnished image I thought looked good in black and white. The pics were taken by a 'professional photographer', but it looks to me like they were just taken with a good camera. They don't portray the romantic, soft wedding photo feel to me.
I have had no 'formal' photoshop training, but I have taught myself what I know by reading and watching videos and other assorted tutorials :-)
Please let me know what you think. I will GREATLY value any imput, suggestions, or critisism. Thanks!!!
-BriC
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:30 AM
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I love what you did! It is very subtle how you slimmed her up, but not noticable without a side by side look at the original. I like the background as well, very studio like. I think the black and white fits very well. Have you tried a sepia tone as well? Was this a crop from a bigger photo or was this the original shot? I think it would be better if you could see her bouquet more..but if it's not there, not much you can do about that.

My thoughts on the "professional". Anyone with a fancy camera can call themselves a professional if your willing to pay them. In this particular photo, there is bad lighting, a bad color cast, no catchlights in the eyes so they look dull and lifeless and a very bad angle. If they had any training at all they would have seen this before they took the picture. The Angle alone is what aggrivates me! This particular angle can make your sister look bigger than she really is because of shooting below can widen your subject. They should have taken the shot at eye level/from above slightly (which is also great for double chins) I really hope your sister got some better pictures than this from the photographer. And that it didn't cost her an arm and a leg! Some things you can "fix" in photoshop, but you can't beat getting it right the first time.

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Old 08-25-2005, 07:00 AM
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Thanks so much, Amber! That is just the type of feedback that I need. I had hoped that without a side by side comparison, you wouldn't be left with the thought that the photo had been 'slimmed'. It would make me feel bad if my sis thought, "wow, he had to slim my fat a@* up!".
I agree that the angle was terrible. I also suspect that the photographer should have asked my sis not to press her arms by her side. I think that is another reason her arms in particular appeared large.
When you saw my sis at the wedding, "fat" wasn't at all what was thought. But the pics, however, look alarmingly fat by comparison to her in real life.
I really wanted the overall finished pic - even to people who saw her AT the wedding - to not appear totally retouched or manipulated.... but to simply look like 'a good picture' of her wedding getup :-)
Thanks again!!!
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:10 AM
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I agree with Amber - you've done a nice subtle job of slimming your sister, without it being at all artificial. The background etc look good too! That angle is most unfortunate though, (the side angle as well). Looking forward to seeing some other shots that are hopefully a bit better framed by the photographer!?
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:33 AM
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Do you think there is anything I can do about the angle at which the pic was taken? Maybe with a distortion transformation?
The bouquet is a nice part of the pic, I think, so I wouldn't want to distort it to where the flowers weren't visible... but the original pic that I attatched isn't a crop... it is the picture in it's entirity.
I haven't mastered the transform variations... I could play around with various settings if ya'll think there could be an angle improvement...
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:10 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly on the pose as well, def not a good pose for her body type. We all come in shapes and sizes, but a good photog will know how to make us look good regardless! Honestly I would not attempt to try to alter the angle, it wouldn't look natural. What you have done with the photo looks great and I know your sis will appreciate it. Was there any other photos with a better pose that you could work on? Can you describe some of the techniques that you used to slim down? There is one that I like to use from Scott Kelbys book where you simply Select all, Free Transform and then you take the side of the photo and pull it in just slightly but not too far or it will look retouched.

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Old 08-25-2005, 02:04 PM
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hi BriC and welcome to RP.

i'm gonna start here by saying you're taking your life in your hands in 'slimming' this picture. the woman is lovely woman and may not care for what may amount to an 'insult' in your picture. whereas you did a nice job of it, if she detects it and takes exception over you making 'pictorial comments' over her size, you may find yourself in hot water. her size is her size. it may be 'good' or 'bad' in her consideration, but what you are saying in your picture is that in your it's 'bad' because it 'needs' to be 'corrected'. you see what i'm saying here? i wouldnt touch it unless she specifically asked you to.

for the rest, the photographer did a fairly poor job of this picture. the background was a poor choice, being both light and dark and the picture is poorly lit. the face in particular shld have more light.

i did a little work on your picture. i didnt do anything to the background. you seem quite capable of handling that part, so i left it alone. i did alter the lighting. i also doubled the image size and smoothed out the resulting 'jaggies'.

i also noticed you lost some detail in her wedding dress, the stuff around the shoulders. i re-did the lighting so that that got left in. i even sharpened it a bit. i also sharpened her face and head a bit.

i took out a few marks on her face and smoothed things a bit there as well as on her arm and shoulder.

for the lighting, i tried to duplicate the light source and added a bit of peach coloring to her face light. and then added an overall blue shader, very light. i also did a curves adjustment layer to make sure i didnt bleach out the detail of the dress and veil and to give the image a little more contrast.

i also didnt do any 'dreamy', blurry effect. you seem to have that under control also.

i also tend to disagree with the black and white, but that's a personal choice thing.

you might also think about frames and borders and a second shot with a tigher crop on the head and shoulders.

good luck

Craig
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:56 PM
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Thanks for the imput, Craig!
My sis did say that she thought she looked bigger than she is. I think that is the case also. She doesn't strike you as 'fat' when you see her, but the wedding pic looks pretty husky especially in her arm.
When I pulled the front of the dress flush with her skin, her boobs looked WAY too big. Now, she does have a hefty chest, but they looked vulgar almost. Since photoshop is all about creating illusions anyway, i figured better to have her breasts *smaller* than they really are so that it looks natural... I'm sure that the husband is the only one who should look at the wedding picures and first think: "boobies". Haha
I agree with everyone and thought so myslef before I posted, that the photographer did a piss-poor job. If she labled herself as amateaur, then they would be decent pics. But a PRO would have done many things differently.
Thanks again!
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Old 08-26-2005, 10:15 AM
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My sis did say that she thought she looked bigger than she is. I think that is the case also.
then just disregard everything i said on the subject; she's given you license to alter

Craig
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:09 PM
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Hi BriC

IMHO. I think that slimming her waist is emphasising her breasts. I tried a different way.

Attachment 1. is the Original.
Attachment 2. I moved the veil and blurred the background
Attachment 3. I used the perspective tool to try to bring the camera angle higher.
Attachment 4. This is the same as picture 3 with the arm reduced slightly.

The blue background shows how much the picture was distorted.

Ken
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