Mimicking Cross Processing Effect

[Kraellin]

thanks guys.

i did a little bit of looking also. and both normal print film and slide film burn as a negative first. both are then converted to a positive. in the case of 'normal' film it gets printed on paper, and in the case of slides, it gets printed on a transparency. ok, so we all kinda knew that. what i had forgotten was that a slide negative in 35mm prints to 35 mm on color transparency film....at least as best i can currently understand it. this is off the Kodak.com site:

KODAK VERICOLOR Slide Film is intended for producing same-size positive transparencies from color negatives or for making reduced-size transparencies from larger negatives.

so, even though both films use a negative to positive approach, the slide film is printing its results onto a color transparency film and perhaps that's why they use different development processing? lol. oh well, i think i at least answered my original question

thanks.

Craig

edit: i may still have this a bit wrong. i see on that same site that they talk about something called an 'internegative', which i'm currently assuming is where you might take normal film, transfer it by a photographic process to this 'internegative', which then allows to transfer it chemically to the color transparency? lol. why do i get into these things?

[Kraellin]

ok, i just did another search on 'how stuff works' and got this:

Film Options
When you purchase a roll of film for your camera, you have a lot of choices. Those products that have the word "color" in their name are generally used to produce color prints that you can hold in your hand and view by reflected light. The negatives that are returned with your prints are the exposures that were made in your camera. Those products that have the word "chrome" in their name produce a color transparency (slides) that requires some form of projector for viewing. In this case, the returned slides are the actual film that was exposed in your camera.

so, slides ARE the film from the camera. and that in turn explains a bit more

Craig

[Kraellin]

hopefully, just some further clarifications on some of these terms:

A negative created directly from a colour-reversal (positive) or black-white positive film. It is the negative copy of the camera original.
www.vistek.ca/glossary/default.asp

this is apparently used to take a slide BACK to a negative. it's also a term used when taking a print BACK to a negative.

so, now that i've effectively killed this thread... cross processing is based on the two different, standard processes for developing, one for normal prints and one for developing negatives into slides. so, by crossing the processes, using one for other than it was intended, you get odd, sometimes desirable results. whew!

we now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

Craig