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09-18-2006, 09:52 AM
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| | | My hardness varies anywhere from 0-50%. I like to keep it at 20-30, just cuz that's what I'm used to. As for size, on average it ranges from 10-50 pixels, but yes, sometimes a smaller brush is needed.
Practice by not zooming in. Do an image where you don't move in more than 200%. You'll see you can get the same effect. | 
09-18-2006, 10:09 AM
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| | | Thanks Veed I will do exactly as you suggested. I'll see if I can find a decent image to work on and posts thre results. Thanks for all your suggestions.
Sincerely Syd | 
09-18-2006, 03:01 PM
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| | | I think i know how they do it. Its all about using selective colour and hue and saturation. You have to pick out the individual pixels that make up the blemishes in colour range, and then adjust accordingly. Takes a long time. Your talking around 12 hrs per image | 
09-19-2006, 04:00 AM
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| | | I had to give this image a try. here is my work on it.
Last edited by hafrover; 09-19-2006 at 06:01 AM.
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09-24-2006, 11:31 AM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? Quote: |
Originally Posted by shellby Hello
I am trying to find out how to achieve that highly polished look in retouching skin like the Dior adverts.
Have a look at this link to a hair salon and view their portfolio section: http://www.rush.co.uk/portfolio.htm
If you look at my portfolio you can see that I am on my way to getting smooth skin, however I am not sure how to get this exact look.
I have used the method of median blur, and then bringing back detail with noise on a softlight layer. I also spend a lot of time using the healing brush to remove blemishes beforehand.
The pro's do not use any blurring.
Another method I have been trying out is the dodge and burn technique (thanks Conrad - from a previous thread) This does a good job of getting rid of blochy skin BUT just how do they get that polished look without blurring??
You can view my website to see the kind of work I do. | I don't think that they will give you an correct answer due to copying them! I think they HAVE used blurr or some kind of blur technique! This is very smootk...You can barely see the skin texture...But maybe the hav a pore brush that they put in pores afterwards and then smoothen on top of th eblurred skin! a technique I want to see in action...Maybe someone can post a version like that???
gerry | 
09-24-2006, 01:45 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? oh, here is my version of the soft skin! no pores though ?! | 
09-24-2006, 02:05 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? here is another...didn't get teh heai alright , but I'm pleased with the overall result! | 
09-24-2006, 02:25 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? another from me! | 
09-24-2006, 02:53 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? yet another one from me! still learning! | 
09-24-2006, 03:02 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? Quote: |
Originally Posted by nvstyle You are right about the photography, a lot has to do with great lighting and also a big part has to do with the broncolor beauty dish that creates a even tone in the skin. http://www.duroi.com/fashionforum/in...ames/read/8639
Also this photographer http://www.sarahsilver.com told me that she uses the broncolor beauty dish for her images. I was also told by a makeup artist that worked with her that she uses a lot photoshop also. This lady also teaches photography lessons. Im curious to know if she teaches her PS techniques.
Check out her site, especially her beauty section.
Also check out this guys site, hes a makeup artist out of Paris and Romania: www.alexabagiu.com
I think this is the effect that shellby is trying a achieve, polish skin.
I also emailed him and he told me that he uses broncolor beauty dish, and lots of lighting to achieve his results, the photography on his site is superb, stunning.
If ppl dont know the beauty dish produces a very hard light source, but the skin tones come out very very even. And thats what your seeing in the links i posted | http://www.sarahsilver.com/photograp.../getready3.jpg
This picture is strictly dodge and burn! From my experienc ethe last days with dodge and burn I would def say that dodging on the darker spots is the technique...not 100% sure, but almost
Gerry | 
09-24-2006, 03:37 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? I have looked at a lot of different methods of evening and polishing skin, but i am not sure I understand what is happening in dodge and burn method....I thought that dodge/burn was for lightening/darkening parts of the image...I don't understand how that evens things out...maybe I am not doing something right here...anyone point me to a good outline of this method either way (I have heard about soflight grey layer, I have heard of curves layers, and d/b tools themselves...) just looks blotchier....maybe I am using to strong? to small brush? too zoomed in or out? help if you can
-K | 
09-24-2006, 07:02 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? PALOMINO: A goo dtip is to try smalle exposure %,,,therefor you have more control on each stroke! I've just got a good explenation on some basic dodging and burning technique! softlight layer with 50% is nice,,,I try to get a good dodging on those layers...finishing touch I go directly to the picture...somehow I find that better then sof light layer, but only for finish touch!
a nice way to start out is to use dodg about 10%exsposure, 0%hardness and choose what size that fits the dodging part! a good zoom is to zoom in to max 300% or less...You have better control over dark and light areas of the face if you don't zoom in too much!
gerry | 
09-24-2006, 09:18 PM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? thanks -- I will give it a try. Is it more for evening out blotchy color than anything else right? You still have to use stamp or healing brush to remove blemishes, etc....?
-K | 
09-25-2006, 10:07 AM
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| | | Re: How to get highly polished skin? yes, I use patch tool on bigger areas on a new layer and tak down the opacity to around 40-50%...I use clone tool on a new layer and take downb the opacity abit to get abit real skin! but I'm now expert there are people in RP who have far more experience then me,but a nice way to start out is to use these tools!
Gerry | 
09-29-2006, 03:56 PM
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| | | Been away for a while Wow this thread has come a long way... and so have I!
I am now working as a full time retoucher as well as still doing some freelance work from home. I am working up in London at an international beauty / make-up / cosmetic company in house.
Blurring is ok for small jobs that you do from home. When people want an image retouched in an hour or two... or three!
Using the dodge and burn method takes time. This is what is used on high end images that are to be used for adverts, posters and shop bays. One image of a face can take a working week to do. Hours and hours. There is no fast fix.
Thanks to Heyrad especially and all of you who have contributed to this thread on my favourite retouching subject... skin! |
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