Photo Retouching - - how to volume bust?

pure · #1 02-22-2006, 01:37 PM

hi

i have got some models with very little bust, and good method to create a nice one with volume? the client wants it. they wear bikinis or tight shirts.

i made the first one, she looks good now. i took the busts from a third model and blended them into the chest. but i cant do that with the 2 others. it would be too obvious.

using the blowup-feature in the PS filters is a bit limited. it looks too blown if exaggerated.

PatrickB · #2 02-22-2006, 01:41 PM

Liquifier and stuff is a good start for breast enlargements. What's important is to find the right way to apply the texture to them, e.g. if you have a bikini with stripes to apply them so it looks natural, and to watch shadows and lights to make them look real.

Do you happen to have an example picture?

pure · #3 02-22-2006, 01:46 PM

ok sure if you want. fine

the liquifier tools are my first choice for this in combination with curves to boost shadows and highlights, like you describe,

i only thought there is another different approach, so i could learn more...

edgework · #4 02-22-2006, 01:58 PM

Think about what happens as the surface turns from facing the light to curving away. It goes into shadow. (Duh.) A larger surface will result in highlight, transitional and shadow areas being politioned differently than a "flatter" surface. (Trying to keep this PG-13, folks). There will, in fact, be much less shadow with a flatter surface. Liquify is essential for modifying the edge areas, and the seams of material, but look closely at your shadow areas. Get a dodge/burn layer going and you'll be amazed at the enhancement that is possible.

pure · #5 02-22-2006, 02:40 PM

here my first.
maybe there is another way of doing it? any experience

thx

pure · #6 02-22-2006, 02:41 PM

couldn upload 2 files, here now my bust one, before it was raw

meok · #7 02-22-2006, 03:30 PM

If you want to bring your retouching skills to another level, I HIGHLY recommend this DVD: http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/sro08.html
It discusses in depth how to create beleivable volumes from scratch. Great for breast, facial and body contouring and everything in between.

meok · #8 02-22-2006, 03:32 PM

wow did you do that Pure? Looks great!,

mistermonday · #9 02-22-2006, 03:37 PM

Pure, play around with Filter>Distort>Pinch as well as Filter>Distort>Spherize. If you use the Eliptical Marquee tool to make a selection you may find one of these does just the job on a specific model. The Spherize filter also allows you to contrain the distotion to only the horizontal or the vertical which can also work well on some images.
Regards, Murray

pure · #10 02-22-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by meok

wow did you do that Pure? Looks great!,

thanks. it was made a bit too fast and not detailed very much, but for 1-2h its ok for me. as i mentioned, first used the different tools in the liquifier filter in Photoshop CS2 to correct the desired shape of the bra, then adjusted the curves for shadows / highlights partially and used dodge and burn a bit. finally i dropped a cutout from another girls’ brest and worked it into the other skin.

i just showed it for getting inspirations to create it in another way. maybe there isnt. i dont know.

studioj · #11 02-22-2006, 04:09 PM

I have seen a professional reouching only the skin, not the bra, this way the bra seems to be pushing more and looks somehow more real.

You did it pretty well Peter, but I think she now seems to have veeeeery huge brest and looks somehow unnatural. I think you have the skills, but just keep playing around with the ideas you already know.

It helps a lot go out and look another busts

pure · #12 02-22-2006, 04:31 PM

yes the skin is way too soft. no more pores. thats what i dislike

the breast is huge and far too big. i made it proportional before in different versions, only 1/2 of the latest size. but the client didnt like it.

they want it always so big. i said, men especially have different tastes. and obviously she has tiny ones, thats natural and ok, for sure.

blowing up each single model is boring in my taste.

its a commercial...nothing else. what i dont like is also that especially the girls – small ones – see those and presume its natural to have big round breasts. so, thats a common case i think, affects puberty complexes in a special way.

creeduk · #13 02-22-2006, 08:32 PM

Great job Pure and I am with you they need to be some where in between I guess you are stuck trying to please the client but as you say they have smaller assets and asking to go so big is wrong. Before I saw the picture I was going to suggest you start with a larger resolution, and cop the brests to a smaller resolution file allowing you to create an increased bust, but the bust has no initial definition so that would not work in this case.