great style by jill greenberg

[spydercam]

Thanks Janet, I'll look into it. Sorry for being such a newb I was just excited._lol

[Miguelsv]

the dragan, hdr and the jill greenberg style, is different.
The key of the jill is the light, she use a lot of strobes and closed apertures f stops.

whatever, the time in postproduction (Photoshop) is too long.
fred_nikon (up side) says: dodge an burn... he is very close... but, adds color correction, balance levels, contrast, etc.
the tutorials like (http://www.bechbox.dk/pwl/ http://www.atncentral.com/download.htm
http://andrzejdragan.com/) are far to be jill's style.
look here www.davehillphoto.com/ watch carefully "behind the scenes" area in the inferior part of the web, and you discover the secret.
Sorry for my english..

[spydercam]

Originally Posted by Miguelsv

the dragan, hdr and the jill greenberg style, is different.
The key of the jill is the light, she use a lot of strobes and closed apertures f stops.

whatever, the time in postproduction (Photoshop) is too long.
fred_nikon (up side) says: dodge an burn... he is very close... but, adds color correction, balance levels, contrast, etc.
the tutorials like (http://www.bechbox.dk/pwl/ http://www.atncentral.com/download.htm
http://andrzejdragan.com/) are far to be jill's style.
look here www.davehillphoto.com/ watch carefully "behind the scenes" area in the inferior part of the web, and you discover the secret.
Sorry for my english..

I'll have to take a look at that later, thanks alot for the post.

[santoro80]

Originally Posted by pure

thanks for that formula. funny.

another question reg. the bechbox instructions:

http://www.bechbox.dk/pwl/

there is something i dont understand:

point 3:

"Step 3: Color control
Here's a great way of controlling color - it can give you a dramatic effect or a very subtle one.

First make a new layer and merge all visible layers into that (Cmd-Option-Shift-E). Name it 'color'.

Now select 'Channels' in the layer palette and go through the Red, Green and Blue channels. Copy the ones you like (sometimes I use all three) to a new layer under 'Layers' and name it accordingly. Place these B&W layers beneath the 'color' layer as shown in the image to the right, where you can see that for this image I chose the green and the blue layer.

Go to the 'color' layer and change the blending mode to Color. Cool eh?

Now it's time to experiment! Change the opacity of the B&W layers to blend them together - maybe even try changing the blending modes. Often I use the opacity slider of the 'color' layer as a saturation control to desaturate, but with this image I didn't do that."


> "Place these B&W layers beneath the 'color' layer as shown in the image to the right, where you can see that for this image I chose the green and the blue layer.

Go to the 'color' layer and change the blending mode to Color. Cool eh?"

... i dont see any effect when placing the 2 or 3 RGB channels as a layer each above the main layer. did he mean to set the RGB greayscale layer also to blend mode "color" or not?

thx

I dont get it too. Does anybody know how this can be done?

[Flashtones]

Originally Posted by santoro80

I dont get it too. Does anybody know how this can be done?

I think there is an easier way. But first get the concept. Your BW layers help you adjust the tonality of the image independent of the color. Do this for practice:

1. Start with a flat (no layers) colorful image. Dupe the BG layer and set the dupe (the top layer) to Color mode.
2. Click the BG layer and chose a BW adjustment layer or a channelmix adjustment layer and check the monochromatic checkbox. So you now have a layer stack with a BG layer, then a BW/Channel mix adj layer (which will allow you to adjust the tonality of colors) and the your color layer up top.
3. Play around with the color sliders in you BW/CM adjustment layers and notice that you can lighten or darken certain colors of the photo relative to others. This allows you to affect contrast and tonality.

That's the concept, and I think the adjustment layers I mention allow one to do more simply what he is doing by copying and duping two channels and pasting them in as layers and then adjusting the opacity of those layers.

[santoro80]

Great. Thnaks!

[LonK]

Even easier, Flashtones -- Just add the B/W or channelmix adjustment layer, set blend mode to luminosity. Adjust away...

[Flashtones]

Originally Posted by LonK

Even easier, Flashtones -- Just add the B/W or channelmix adjustment layer, set blend mode to luminosity. Adjust away...

Good call.

[lutcus]

first post

[snook305]

yeh and if you put the layer to luminosity first then you start to adjust the B&W you will see the instant effect...:+}
Snook

[spydercam]

Okay I did try this, what do you guys think? A long ways from Dragan I know but still.
Before
DraganEffect

[spydercam]

Originally Posted by spydercam

Okay I did try this, what do you guys think? A long ways from Dragan I know but still.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...klesbefore.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...aganeffect.jpg

Too much? I looked at some more of his photos and there is just alot missing, they are more smoothed out but still harsh... Ideas please?

[paulbyun]

I have been trying to figure this technique for years now and I have come up with my own.

This is my portfolio

www.paulbyun.com

and here's a link on my blog that describes how to achieve this "painting" look

http://paulbyun.blogspot.com/search/...ng%20Tutorials

if you like what you see, feel free to subscribe to my blog!

Thanks

[santoro80]

There is no tutorial.... It says "No posts match your query".

[mparksmagic]

Sure there is a ton of post here, but the key to this style is really the lighting.. I've experimented around and you can really get this effect with 2 silver umbrellas at 45 degrees + profoto proring 2.. Ring flash is KEY here for even lighting.. Take a look at the eyes in her photos.. 2 umbs and a ring.

Post is mainly contrast + burn dodge and background manipulation.

Fix your lighting conditions and it will make post much easier.

[dvbear]

If I posted a picture here would anyone be able to try doing the Jill Greenberg effect to it and post there workflow?

I hope I'm not asking too much but I really like how fred_nikons turned out but no matter what I do I cannot achieve this look. I'm starting to think I'm not beginning with a good enough photo.

EDIT: Shoot I just noticed I resurrected a very old post. Please disregard

[spydercam]

Hey dvbear. Don't worry about the bumping the old thread. Just post up the original and what you turned out with and we'll all take a look at it and give you some tips.