great style by jill greenberg

[meditom]

http://www.manipulator.com/

does anybody know how to create this style?
not in detail of course. but perhaps someone knows how to create this kind of hyperrealism.

greetings from germany and sorry for my bad english :-)

[shellby]

Tutorial:
http://www.bechbox.dk/pwl/

Actions:
http://www.atncentral.com/download.htm

Website:
http://andrzejdragan.com/

Also take a look at the thread on "Silver Light". All the same concept. You decide how far to take the effect and what colours to add.

[meditom]

thank you shellby. I know these sides and tutorials.
but I think that there is a difference between draganized pictures
and the style of greenberg. I think greenberg deals much more with
local contrast enhancement without changing the colours.

[shellby]

I do love this look and I think that the same concept can be applied. Do you know of Jim Fiscus?

It seems to be all about increased contrast. Rich colours. Fake backgrounds. Sharpening. Dodge and Burn.

On http://www.manipulator.com/ That Lord OF the Rings image is Paint With Light - I think so anyway. Also painting in colours using the paint brush eg) cool blue tones on their skin. Then Dodge and Burn in places to bring out certain features. They have been placed onto a background too.

Have you got any images that we could play with?

[pure]

wow. stunning.


also andrzejdragan.com is wonderful.

how does he achieve so much detail in his portraits and nice unsaturated colors? is it a film shoot?

couldnt find that lord of the rings pic, where did you find it please?

thx

[meditom]

yes fiscus is another great one shellby. I had a try on this

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/my...isplay/4836038

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/my...isplay/5148965

[pure]

dragan uses digital cameras - Canon 1Ds, Canon 24-70 f/2.8L mainly.

shellby, "painting with light" is there any description in the forum? i tried to search but didnt find so fast....

[shellby]

Try this tutorial: http://www.bechbox.dk/pwl/

Use it to learn the concept and then apply it in your own way.

About Jim Fiscus: http://altpick.com/spot/fiscus/index.php

http://jw-digital.net/blog/archives/...g_the_jim.html

"# make a duplicate of your background layer and place it above the background.
# Convert it to grayscale, using your favorite method.
# Switch the layer to hard-light or soft-light mode
# adjust opacity, add layer masks to taste.
# repeat as necessary to fine tune in various parts of the image.

That's it! Now, I doubt Mr. Fiscus uses just one layer to get his photos the way they are, but that's the basic idea behind it."

Try these threads: http://www.photoshoptechniques.com/main/defaulth.php

http://www.mediengestalter.info/foru...-48635-15.html

www.dpreview.com also discuss this a lot

PWL, Paint With Light, Dragon, Fiscus (try searching for these)

[meditom]

thank you shellby
draganize techniques often go hand in hand with an increase of contrast and
a artificial look. what do you think about these examples.
they look moore natural but still very plastically.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=17564705

[shellby]

I like those. I must actually go out and shoot something that I can start working with. I really like this look.

[meditom]

what do you think about his technique?

[shellby]

If you read that post they discuss the DRAGON method once again. Just don't go as far with it. Go over the dragon technique then apply those painting and dodge and burn techniques to your images. You don't have to go as far as he does. Also the start image makes all the difference.

The hip hop music scene seem to like this look.

These magazines: http://www.xxlmag.com/

and: http://www.vibe.com/

[pure]

thats true.
in my opinion, dragans images look still like photography.
if you apply slightly too much of the effect it looks like a painting.

also dragans images live from the fact that he gets "scaring" and emotionally "rich" human faces from the streets and places of eastern europe countries.

nice.

[shellby]

Take a look at http://www.taylorjames.com/

They use these satuarated colours in a lot of the car adverts

[pure]

do you think they simply add saturation by increasing the saturation in "colours/saturation" panel or other difficult ways?