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Old 06-30-2006, 06:42 PM
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What kind of technique is this?

Hi

I often see this kind of technique used in commercial and fine art photography. It is specially visible with skintones. Looks to me like it could be some kind of massive airbrushing, but I don't know, it could be a global PS effect..
Notice how colors look half way between paintings and photographs.

Here are a couple of examples (if you see a pattern in all these images, you probably see what I mean, if they all look different to you, just forget about it)

one here and 3 more in attachment


thanks for any ideas you might have
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:56 PM
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Here is a more extreme example (extreme as in, the effect is a bit more pronaunced)

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/img/..._posterart.jpg
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:21 PM
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My first thought would be to take a step back in the whole process before it even gets to PS: make up. All of those look like a similar type of make up.

I may be talking out my proverbial bottom here but a lot of pros that I have heard/read when asked about certain PS techniques mention that it is more effective to do as much as possible towards the "look" of a photo before even pressing the shutter button. I am sure there is some PS done on these but I think the look is achieved mostly through make up.
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Old 07-01-2006, 05:20 AM
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It's a lot of painting, drawing, sharpening, color-adjusting
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Old 07-01-2006, 07:02 AM
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My first thought would be to take a step back in the whole process before it even gets to PS: make up. All of those look like a similar type of make up.

I may be talking out my proverbial bottom here but a lot of pros that I have heard/read when asked about certain PS techniques mention that it is more effective to do as much as possible towards the "look" of a photo before even pressing the shutter button. I am sure there is some PS done on these but I think the look is achieved mostly through make up.

Yea, you are probably right about the make up, but if you take a look at the clothes, and surroundings (like in the second attachment) you can see the same "treatment" done to that too, not just the skin.

I've been digging some more and it seems this is some sort of painting after all. Here is one retoucher/illustrator doing that kind of stuff:

http://www.amydresser.com/retouch.html

Sometimes the whole photographs are repainted to make illustrations out of them, like in this case:
http://www.amydresser.com/img/startrek_comp.jpg

Now I'd like to learn more about this. For example, surely they use photoshop, but what tools?

I already know how to make those fashion skintones, by using dodge/burn tool to "repaint" highlights and shadows. But I wouldn't know what to use for drastic repainting like in the previous example.
Is it airbrushing?
Also was this kind of thing done before photoshop? Did people do this kind of thing with chemical retouching techniques? (any examples?)

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Old 07-14-2006, 03:40 AM
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I've been digging some more and it seems this is some sort of painting after all. Here is one retoucher/illustrator doing that kind of stuff:

http://www.amydresser.com/retouch.html
Here's my attempt with one of Amy's before pics

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Old 07-14-2006, 04:33 AM
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Thanks for the amydresser link. That gave a lot of inspiration.
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Old 07-14-2006, 06:13 AM
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Well of course yer dodge, burn and sponge I know I used alot in the darkroom before I got hooked on PS. The first thing that sprung to mind when I saw your posted images was colourization... the traditional, hand tinted way which is not that highly saturated and tones are clean and simple.
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:21 AM
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Yea, you are probably right about the make up, but if you take a look at the clothes, and surroundings (like in the second attachment) you can see the same "treatment" done to that too, not just the skin.

I've been digging some more and it seems this is some sort of painting after all. Here is one retoucher/illustrator doing that kind of stuff:

http://www.amydresser.com/retouch.html

Sometimes the whole photographs are repainted to make illustrations out of them, like in this case:
http://www.amydresser.com/img/startrek_comp.jpg

Now I'd like to learn more about this. For example, surely they use photoshop, but what tools?

I already know how to make those fashion skintones, by using dodge/burn tool to "repaint" highlights and shadows. But I wouldn't know what to use for drastic repainting like in the previous example.
Is it airbrushing?
Also was this kind of thing done before photoshop? Did people do this kind of thing with chemical retouching techniques? (any examples?)

thanks
Hey this is very interesting, have you found any more of this?

where can I find the dodge/burn technique?

cheerrs
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Old 07-14-2006, 07:30 PM
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Amy Dresser's stuff is a real eye opener for me. I bookmarked her site for sure. Her retouching skills are far superior than the lighting skills of some photographers who took the photos....she transforms only not the skin, facial features but radically change the lighting as well. She really understands very well the physics of light---how highlights and shadows behave and manipulate it in such way they look very convincing.

Here is my attempt (2nd photo) to retouch one of her before photo, reproducing her techniques (3rd photo); my first nose, chin and lip jobs ever done in my life
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