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Old 08-17-2006, 04:58 PM
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Help with refining commercial glam look

I don't post very quickly on a forum but I guess I'm a bit stuck now.

This is what I have accomplished untill now:
http://www.doorhof.nl/models/albums/...2006%2074k.jpg
This is the internet version, but please download this 100% crop....

http://www.htforum.nl/fotofrank/albu...02006%2074.jpg
Don't open it in a browser because it will shrink the crop, loosing alot of detail.

Now my question.
I have posted this on some forums and although most are oh-ah, there are some forums which think my work is unnatural and ugly and unprofessional.

I would love to know what I'm doing wrong, and what to improve.
So I thought let's ask the pro's

Greetings,
Frank
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:27 PM
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Well, it looks good to me, Frank.

Maureen
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:38 PM
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my only suggestion is to tone down the texture on the face, just a bit...it seems just a bit too sandy to me.
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:05 AM
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Without seeing the original, I can't really give you a true answer or critique...however thus far I think it looks extremely natural. Very nice work!
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:51 AM
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Tone down the structure ?
Well that what the remarks were about it was too much barbie like.

To quote:
"Oh my this is the ugliest PP I have ever seen, jag"


I know that the smooth skin is something that has to be liked, but I showed some work from for example www.dbem.net and they love the structure there, so there is something wrong I'm doing, but I really don't know how to get the structure to show but the smoothness also.

Greetings,
Frank
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:09 AM
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My first impression is that the face is to light ( not overexposed ). I see now that its because the main part of the face is to evenly lit, making the right side of the face very flat, as opposed to the nice highlights on the other side, adding some good drama.

Copying the blue channel to a new layer set in Lumnocity would help a little to get a little more tone on the cheek.
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:33 AM
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thanks will try that tonight,
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:03 AM
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Yep another step in the right direction
Thanks.
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Old 08-18-2006, 09:04 AM
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I think your photo is fine with the exception of the placement of light on the face and lack of shadow. The model already has a round face and without shadows it has a tendency to further exaggerate the round head shape (unless that was your goal).

Keeping in mind this is one individuals opinion, so please don't think I'm attempting to change your photo in any way . . . only suggesting. I've added shadow with a soft blur, warmed the skin, and made various contrast adjustments.

Of course I realize this is subjective and I do like your work.
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Old 08-18-2006, 09:10 AM
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It was shot with a ringflash so flat lighting without shadows was predictable

Of course I don't mind remarks, I'm here to learn.

One thing however, were did you make changes with the shadows, because I can only see some darkening on the side but not very much.

Greetings,
Frank
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