Photo Retouching - - Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face - Page 2

miguel · #16 09-29-2006, 09:36 AM

thanks ziaphra

DanielBux123 · #17 09-29-2006, 10:13 AM

What do you mean ?

KR1156 · #18 09-29-2006, 01:11 PM

Godmother is right, Dodge & Burn the individual hairs, I would stay away from blurs, and other "quick fixes", because with a blur, you removed the hairs, but now you have a bigger problem, a very obvious area that you retouched. People will notice that in a heart beat. You always want to try and maintain the original pixels, the goal is to try and blend the areas around the hairs into the skin tone. Dodge the dark areas, and burn the light areas.

place my before and after files on top of each other, and look at the Before & After.

this took about 5 min.

hope this helps.

superkoax · #19 09-29-2006, 02:30 PM

I would experiement with patchtool on a new layer...with around 40%opacity! go in deep around 200-300% and start using patch tool...remeber to use a clean hairless area with around the same skin color...then go around and do small adjustments so the are blends inn with lip area...I copy the area I want to patch up along with a clean area so I can work on a new layer...therefor the bace picture isn't hurt by my many mistakes...It takes abit notice and training to get teh patch tool to get right...

It's a nice way to work on big areas ion the face that's is very hard to fix...

Gerry

NancyJ · #20 09-29-2006, 03:41 PM

Your problem is there isnt any skin texture there to preserve - this is beyond peach fuzz - the length and brightness of the hairs are obscuring all the underlying skin - To make a decent picture out of this - reshooting is the only option.
The only way you're going to remove that tash is by replacing it with texture taken from elsewhere (or making it up) - the skin texture under the nose is however is different to other parts of the face so you would probably have to sample texture from another photo - at which point you might as well reshoot since it wont be any more authentic.
All the skin texture in the sample you showed is bad, poor skin, large pores and lots of hair - you could save yourself a lot of time by getting better models.

shellby · #21 09-29-2006, 03:45 PM

Nancy J is correct. How about waxing for the model, then reshoot? Somebody once said on this forum "if the image isn't good enough to print, then it isn't good enough to retouch".

KR1156 · #22 09-29-2006, 04:03 PM

NancyJ & Shelby are right, reshoot would be the best bet.

-But, here's where all retouchers skills come in to play, forget the reshoot, this is an image supplied by the client, and a reshoot is out of the question, we're already overbudget on the job, and production is already in the 11th hour.

-What can you do to fix this shot?

-This is what i deal with everyday!!!

shellby · #23 09-29-2006, 04:46 PM

ok then I suggest sourcing texture from another image. Find one similar and the same file size.

Or really carefull healing and cloning.

edgework · #24 09-29-2006, 07:55 PM

Did this in three steps. Duped the layer and blasted the hairs away with the healing brush. Then masked that layer and painted out the hairs with a small brush at low opacity. Finally, used the healing brush again to bring texture back to any soft spots.

http://edgework.tripod.com/samples/hairs.jpg

leuallen · #25 09-29-2006, 09:02 PM

Hi,

Got a method which is pretty quick with good results. In the example below I assumed that all of the grunge other than the hairs was to remain. So I concentrated on removing the hairs only. The other grunge could be removed by this and other methods if desired.

Dup layer, linear light blending, run high pass. I used a radius of 7.0. the idea is to get as much contrast between the hair and other. Any lower, less contrast. Any higher, shadows and highlights get funky. It's an by eye, trial and error thing.

Invert dup and add a hide all mask. Paint hairs with a high opacity, soft, small, white brush. Vary tone by pressure or building up strokes. You don't want a even tone for the whole hair. Use zig zag strokes working back and forth between the dark and light parts of the hair. Process darkens light areas and lightens dark areas with same white brush. You want to break up hair lines by creating randomness. Work at 100% with 4 pix brush. You need not be as precise as you do if you were burning and dodging. Dodging and burning leaves halos - burn the light area and the dark area next to it is affected. Been there, lots of work.

Took maybe 5 minutes for the result below. If anyone has another example with peach fuzz, I'd like to try this method on it. This is the first image I used the process on and I'd like to see how it works on a variety of images. Maybe it's a one trick pony?

I made a PDF tutorial, 500k. If you would like send me an email and I'll send you a copy. leuallenatcomcast.net

Larry

Jann Lipka · #26 09-29-2006, 11:44 PM

leuallens method looks IMHO absolutely best ..
My way would be cloning with quite hard brush , and expanding hair - less area to clone from later on ...

lkroll · #27 09-30-2006, 01:36 AM

...can be your friend. Did some other things too (but not as good as I should have).

leuallen · #28 10-02-2006, 09:32 AM

Tried the technique I mentioned in the previous post on a more conventional image with peach fuzz. The results were good. Took less than ten min.

Larry

LESider · #29 10-02-2006, 05:19 PM

I want to thank Larry for the tutorial it has done in 20 min. what took me about 3+ hours. The results are amazing. I have to learn more about masking.

stosh7 · #30 10-02-2006, 10:09 PM

Hi Daniel:

I thnk Cassidy is on the right track. Excluding the lips, I used the high pass filter to isolate the hairs - then increased the contrast and copied it into an alpha channel. Slight blurring and the turned it into a selection with which to operate only on the hairs. Changed those hair colors and brightness to match the flesh tone produced the result below. Hairs are gone, the remainder is far easier to deal with.