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Old 09-28-2006, 02:56 PM
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Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Hello,
I have a Problem with some beauty Pics. Sometimes there are -Hairs- in the face even at woman. Please look at the picture.

How can I remove this hairs without destructing the -skin texture- and without -Blur- techniques.

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Old 09-28-2006, 03:40 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Well, I think it's hard to do without blur technique but...
I used healing brush tool, than painting with a soft brush and changing opacity in vary modes.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:10 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

G'day Daniel,
I am involved much in beauty retouching but I know of a couple of links that may be useful to you HERE and HERE as well as the tutoral space on this site... I hope this is of some help to you
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:12 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Search for the term: Peach Fuzz in the Search function. There was a discussion on this some time ago. I tried Vikki's method on your image, but it didn't work too well. Too contrasty I think


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Old 09-28-2006, 04:56 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

I've tried many ways to deal with it and my only solution is using the paint brush and sampling the color next to it with a very small brush and painting it in. the only place I really have problems is when there is soo much hair it causes an off color shadow around it. I've had images take me hours of painful painting to get right.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:13 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

If you're needing to get in so close, this issue would have been best dealt with at the photo shoot (get model to wax, change lighting), any chance of a re-shoot?
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:14 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

I ran a highpass layer over the image, just picking up the hairs and then inverted this. Set the blending mode to hard light. Using a mask just painted over the hairs to remove the brightness of them.
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:39 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

heres what i came up with -- i agree with gary...wax
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:49 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Certainly not any better than others have posted ..... just another attempt.....

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Old 09-29-2006, 12:40 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Cloning carefully at 26% opcity seems to help.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:13 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Quote:
Originally Posted by miguel
heres what i came up with -- i agree with gary...wax
Yours is grand, especially as you repaired her dried, chapped lip areas.

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Old 09-29-2006, 02:17 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Hello,
the dried, chapped lip areas are deliberately. That in the face are so much powder are deliberately too. But only the hairs disturb.

I dont need proposals what -RetouchBook- I should buy because I have 4 of them.

The problem with the hairs in the face is a special problem.

I want to remove the -hairs- without destroying the skin texture. It is no problem if the technique takes time. It should only work well.

If there is any idea tell me.

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Old 09-29-2006, 03:22 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

danielbux123, sorry, didn't know that was your intention - i redid the image cloning mostly.

maureeno, thanks.
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Old 09-29-2006, 06:09 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

That looks great miguel!
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:50 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Ok... don't really have the time to show you... but I've done this before.

I use D&B (Set of layers curves adjustments)

Hair by hair... with a very small brush (2 soft)

If I get the tima, I'll post sample
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Old 09-29-2006, 08:36 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

thanks ziaphra
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:13 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

What do you mean ?
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Old 09-29-2006, 12:11 PM
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Keep the original pixels!!!

Godmother is right, Dodge & Burn the individual hairs, I would stay away from blurs, and other "quick fixes", because with a blur, you removed the hairs, but now you have a bigger problem, a very obvious area that you retouched. People will notice that in a heart beat. You always want to try and maintain the original pixels, the goal is to try and blend the areas around the hairs into the skin tone. Dodge the dark areas, and burn the light areas.

place my before and after files on top of each other, and look at the Before & After.

this took about 5 min.

hope this helps.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:30 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

I would experiement with patchtool on a new layer...with around 40%opacity! go in deep around 200-300% and start using patch tool...remeber to use a clean hairless area with around the same skin color...then go around and do small adjustments so the are blends inn with lip area...I copy the area I want to patch up along with a clean area so I can work on a new layer...therefor the bace picture isn't hurt by my many mistakes...It takes abit notice and training to get teh patch tool to get right...

It's a nice way to work on big areas ion the face that's is very hard to fix...


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Old 09-29-2006, 02:41 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Your problem is there isnt any skin texture there to preserve - this is beyond peach fuzz - the length and brightness of the hairs are obscuring all the underlying skin - To make a decent picture out of this - reshooting is the only option.
The only way you're going to remove that tash is by replacing it with texture taken from elsewhere (or making it up) - the skin texture under the nose is however is different to other parts of the face so you would probably have to sample texture from another photo - at which point you might as well reshoot since it wont be any more authentic.
All the skin texture in the sample you showed is bad, poor skin, large pores and lots of hair - you could save yourself a lot of time by getting better models.
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:45 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Nancy J is correct. How about waxing for the model, then reshoot? Somebody once said on this forum "if the image isn't good enough to print, then it isn't good enough to retouch".
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:03 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

NancyJ & Shelby are right, reshoot would be the best bet.

-But, here's where all retouchers skills come in to play, forget the reshoot, this is an image supplied by the client, and a reshoot is out of the question, we're already overbudget on the job, and production is already in the 11th hour.

-What can you do to fix this shot?

-This is what i deal with everyday!!!
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:46 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

ok then I suggest sourcing texture from another image. Find one similar and the same file size.

Or really carefull healing and cloning.
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Old 09-29-2006, 06:55 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Did this in three steps. Duped the layer and blasted the hairs away with the healing brush. Then masked that layer and painted out the hairs with a small brush at low opacity. Finally, used the healing brush again to bring texture back to any soft spots.

http://edgework.tripod.com/samples/hairs.jpg
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Old 09-29-2006, 08:02 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Hi,

Got a method which is pretty quick with good results. In the example below I assumed that all of the grunge other than the hairs was to remain. So I concentrated on removing the hairs only. The other grunge could be removed by this and other methods if desired.

Dup layer, linear light blending, run high pass. I used a radius of 7.0. the idea is to get as much contrast between the hair and other. Any lower, less contrast. Any higher, shadows and highlights get funky. It's an by eye, trial and error thing.

Invert dup and add a hide all mask. Paint hairs with a high opacity, soft, small, white brush. Vary tone by pressure or building up strokes. You don't want a even tone for the whole hair. Use zig zag strokes working back and forth between the dark and light parts of the hair. Process darkens light areas and lightens dark areas with same white brush. You want to break up hair lines by creating randomness. Work at 100% with 4 pix brush. You need not be as precise as you do if you were burning and dodging. Dodging and burning leaves halos - burn the light area and the dark area next to it is affected. Been there, lots of work.

Took maybe 5 minutes for the result below. If anyone has another example with peach fuzz, I'd like to try this method on it. This is the first image I used the process on and I'd like to see how it works on a variety of images. Maybe it's a one trick pony?

I made a PDF tutorial, 500k. If you would like send me an email and I'll send you a copy. leuallenatcomcast.net

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Old 09-29-2006, 10:44 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

leuallens method looks IMHO absolutely best ..
My way would be cloning with quite hard brush , and expanding hair - less area to clone from later on ...
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:36 AM
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Xero's Fuzzifier applied selectively ...

...can be your friend. Did some other things too (but not as good as I should have).
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:32 AM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Tried the technique I mentioned in the previous post on a more conventional image with peach fuzz. The results were good. Took less than ten min.

Larry
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:19 PM
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

I want to thank Larry for the tutorial it has done in 20 min. what took me about 3+ hours. The results are amazing. I have to learn more about masking.
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Re: Beauty Shoot Problem with Hairs in the Face

Hi Daniel:

I thnk Cassidy is on the right track. Excluding the lips, I used the high pass filter to isolate the hairs - then increased the contrast and copied it into an alpha channel. Slight blurring and the turned it into a selection with which to operate only on the hairs. Changed those hair colors and brightness to match the flesh tone produced the result below. Hairs are gone, the remainder is far easier to deal with.
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