Photo Retouching - - Question about the Dior tutorial

QueenBrownShuga · #1 10-14-2006, 08:15 PM

Is it remotely possible to get the Dior effect using Paint Shop Pro X? I love the effect and want to use it for a picture of my grandmother. I attached the picture so you all could see.

Let me know.

JBurt · #2 10-14-2006, 09:09 PM

I'm not familiar with the Dior technique.
Can you point me to an example of what you have in mind?

QueenBrownShuga · #3 10-14-2006, 09:56 PM

It's a tutorial on this site submitted by Ray12:
http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=209

JBurt · #4 10-15-2006, 08:42 AM

I didn't use his tutorial and don't know how far you wanted to go but, this was done in PSP-X this morning. I used numerous layers, noise reduction, a floodfill layer of color to blend and reduce the highlights on her face. Cloning, erasing, and meshwarp to taste.

BTW: A lovely, distinguished lady.

Here is a translation of terms from Photoshop to PSP you may find helpful.
http://paintshoppro.info/tutorials/p...dictionary.htm

Edit to add: Changing her shirt to a darker color would help a lot.

JBurt · #5 10-15-2006, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenBrownShuga

Is it remotely possible to get the Dior effect using Paint Shop Pro X? I love the effect and want to use it for a picture of my grandmother. I attached the picture so you all could see.

Let me know.

I guess I didn't answer your question.

Yes, you can even use that tutorial in PSP-X. There may be different words for the same tools but that is what the translation dictionary is for.

QueenBrownShuga · #6 10-15-2006, 02:50 PM

Thank You JBurt. These definitons will come in VERY handy!

Kraellin · #7 10-15-2006, 05:14 PM

jburt, welcome to RP.

i've included that link in our library. i'm one of those guys who uses psp and i'm always asking the ps folks to translate. so, that's very useful to folks like me! thank you

QueenBrownShuga · #8 10-16-2006, 07:04 PM

I was able to retouch some of the spots, but I don't know how to even the skin tone. Any suggestions?

suzzie1234 · #9 10-16-2006, 08:18 PM

Here is a real quick retouch based on the Dior technique. Since the intensity of the effect is adjustable you can add or delete as much softening or detail as much as you want. The image is kinda low res. The technique works with Paintshop Pro. Instead of the surface blur you can use gaussian blur instead. You have to use masks to get the best results. Ive probably got too much skin detail put in here. Didnt have time to finish up completely. This is just a real quickie test. I would reduce that some.

Suzzie

irshgrlkc · #10 10-16-2006, 09:46 PM

As far as evening out the skin tones you may want to try the tutorial byRo wrote as his method does a great job of evening the skin and saving texture detail (personally I like the effect of just his technique on your Grandma than my result with the Dior technique).

You can find his tutorial right here

Picture One: Just byRo's degrunge technique
Picture Two: My Dior attempt

Daviskw · #11 10-16-2006, 09:46 PM

Hi... love the twinkle in your Grandmothers eye... that little devilish half smile.
Like a dummy I took that away in trying to smooth under the eye… It was a mistake.

Glamour retouching is sure not my thing…but I tried anyway…lol

Good Luck
Butch

QueenBrownShuga · #12 10-16-2006, 11:22 PM

Thanks everyone for helping.

Irshgrlkc... I love the makeup! I thought about adding eyelashes, but didn't have a clue how. I also like the evening of her skin..the glow that it seems to have. I'll give the de-grunge method a shot. Hopefully I can follow all the way through using PSPX.

Suzzie1234...I tried the Dior, but seem to only get so far with PSPX and was not pleased with where I had to stop at, but thanks anyway.

Daviskw...for someone who doesn't excel in glamour retouching, you sure did a good job.

irshgrlkc · #13 10-16-2006, 11:36 PM

Thank you.

The eyelashes I used are actually a brush where I paint them on a layer and then contort them to fit the eye. Since I use Photoshop I don't think you can use the same brushes, however here are some PSP brushes that you can download.

Eyelash Brush

QueenBrownShuga · #14 10-17-2006, 12:45 AM

Irshgrl,

After all was said and done I decided that she looked better in black and white so there is not much worry about color and tone. I did use the de-grunge method. I think she will like since she doesn't think she is very photogenic. THanks for all your help.

Kraellin · #15 10-17-2006, 09:36 AM

i had a go at this also. the first thing i did was to increase the image size by 300%. this will give you smoother lines and transitions. if you're short on computer memory, you may not be able to do 300% but try to increase it if you can.

one way to even up the skin tones is with the airbrush tool in psp. make a new layer above your current one. just a blank layer. take your eyedropper tool and pick a surrounding color that you want to paint with. select your airbrush tool and set it to a very light opacity, like 1 or 2, 3 at the most. set hardness to 60. set step to 5. set density to 50 to 60. thickness to 100. rotation to 0. blend mode to normal.

now just paint over those areas you want to correct. if you get too strong a line of paint, lower the opacity another step. and if you still cant get a light enough line, then dont hold down the mouse while you paint; just dab it on one click at a time.

when you have something fairly close to what you want, go to blur, gausian blur and set this to about 2 to 8. have your preview on image turned on so you can see the full results. when it looks ok, hit ok.

just keep repeating this entire procedure to clean up those areas you want to clean up. and keep adding new blank layers each time that you paint into. this is a bit slow but shld give you some nice results with practice. it's not the only thing i did here, but it's the main thing i did here.

i also used the red eye removal tool to fix the redeye and changed the background to something darker for a bit more contrast. i also added a brightness/contrast adjustment layer to lighten things up a bit and give a bit more contrast overall.

and tell your grandma she's a lovely woman