Photo Retouching - - Loosing brilliance while retouching ? - Page 2

Lasa · #16 12-20-2006, 10:43 PM

Beautiful eyes..
Lasa

bullys1974 · #17 12-21-2006, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by superkoax

to comment your selection of pictures that you like, the picture you uploaded from your own photoshoot versus the collection, the other picture have more "bang" to them due to background, make up and lighting...the lighting is direct to face/body (or highlated more) , background is more dark...Then desaturated and facial retouched...Your picture works in completely different areas then the other pictures...Not negative way, but to enhance this picture to be similar to these isn't possible IMO(!!!)...I have seen people try this with patrick hoelck...Next time use real life background...Maybe I misunderstood your deires towards the retouching bit...

Gerry

i took pics with real life background and my probem is the same... when it comes to retouching the images become matte and not glamourous at all... patrick hoelcks work is great and i like his style...

my images are simply not brilliant .. they look stump ... not popping...
so i want to add more contrast but then my black lines are too thick ... but i like to have filigrain lines... esp for the eyes...lashes... and so on... other retouchers or photographers have so brilliant looking eyes... i´d like to learn this reouching technique.. no one tells ist... my retouching work on eyes is... dodging and burning... creating the halfmoon and make the lines a bit darker.. but the always look unrealistic... is there a real good tutorial on this ?

do u understand this ? hope so

exp5 · #18 12-21-2006, 05:14 AM

fast retouch

bullys1974 · #19 12-21-2006, 05:51 AM

thx for all the retouched images.. but that doesnt help me for now, cause u dont know which style i want to create...

ltake a look at this image from amy dresser:
http://www.amydresser.com/pages/violette.html

its crystalclear and brilliant.. eyes with smooth lines but sharp.. lips glossy... skin perfekt..

or this artist.. he is also member here:
http://www.dennisonbertram.com/

look his beauty portfolio... eyes and lips.. phenomenal sharp... how to get this clearness into a picture ?

makeovermagic · #20 12-21-2006, 05:54 AM

I gave your image a try. I worked from your after image and did some work on her eyes/lips and some color adjustment.

Marsha

makeovermagic · #21 12-21-2006, 07:54 AM

I did another one, working from my previous post... I thought this one had some pop.

Marsha

bullys1974 · #22 12-21-2006, 08:16 AM

hair looks very fine...eyes are poppy... thx..marsha

exp5 · #23 12-21-2006, 06:13 PM

deep deep deep

color is the key!

fast retouch

bullys1974 · #24 12-22-2006, 08:31 AM

i got it.. not only color but light is the key

pwl and all my sorrows were gone...thks to the amy dresser file i painted highlights and shadows.. and the image really popped

first thing solved...
but its always graini and not quite clear and brilliant...

thx for ur help guys...

Syd · #25 02-24-2007, 07:08 AM

I missed this post while away on holiday. Perfect lighting. Great shot. I would love to see your final reworking of it. Perhaps some accented highlights and selective sharpening would make it 'pop' just a little more.

By the way it also took forever to download your webpage and I am on fairly fast ADSL connection. I really like your work.

Sincerely Syd

aaRonology101 · #26 02-24-2007, 08:13 PM

what always impressed my about amy dresser, is how she makes her images look flawlessly clean. all the colors and pixels blend extremely well, and she also maintains a natural feel by keeping textures in tact.

amy dresser is great at what she does, and i look up to her and all her accomplishments. she is indeed very inspirational.

i went ahead and played with the image myself, and i hope its something you might enjoy.

didnt do anything crazy, just my own standard retouch. i concentrated mainly on her face, and not much her body on this image mainly because its only a JPG, and we all know the kind of pain comes along with JPGs. this is for sampling and sharing anyways, so i figured there was no point to go all out.

this is a GREaT shot to work with though. i wish i was able to work on the original RAW file so i can get the real potential of this image out. working with JPGs just sucks with all those JPG artifacts and broken pixels. but nonetheless, it was still fun to play with.

hope you guys like it!

enJoY!

grannysdc · #27 02-25-2007, 01:08 AM

Took your retouched desaturated picture and made a new layer with it over a copy of your original picture.. used the eraser to bring back the original lips and eyes.. Overlayed a copy of the original and reduced the opacity to 74% ... healed the moles and patch that showed through... but cropped them out to save size....

when you desaturate don't you lose the POP you seem to want?

Syd · #28 02-25-2007, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by grannysdc

when you desaturate don't you lose the POP you seem to want?

Not necessarily. Black and white photos can have 'pop' too. 'Pop' comes from contrast and that could be a contrast of color or a contrast of dark and light or a contrast of subject and background. Bully's first retouch has neither a contrast of color nor a contrast of dark and light areas. That is why it is 'flat' even though it is an excellent picture.

To illustrate what I meanI have arranged three pictures just as you did in your attachment. I desaturated too but went for more of a contrast between dark and light. I think you will agree desaturated can have 'pop' too.

Sincerely Syd

grannysdc · #29 02-25-2007, 04:35 AM

Thanks for the presentation.. I sit corrected (to late to stand).. My view of desaturation was a weakening of the colors and if you were to desaturate a B/W picture then I figured it would be like lowering the contrast, Sortta like using #2 paper instead of #5.. Guess I was wrong.. .. Your pictures look pretty good.. Manipulating photos in photoshop sure is different than in a darkroom.. I just keep on learning new things daily within this forum.. Ain't life great??
Granny

unimatrix001 · #30 02-25-2007, 09:32 AM

First i changed the mode to lab color
duplicated the layer
selected the lightness channel
clicked on the eye to show all channels
used apply image choose the a channel and overlay hit ok
press control 2 to choose the a channel
apply image again using the same settings
press control 3 to choose the b channel
apply image using b channel rest of settings the same
and came up with this