Glamour retouch!

[ruud92]

(this tread was also in Critiques under the name: Glamour, First Attempt, im sorry if i make people angry about it??)

ORIGINAL IMAGE!(before)


its a Beauty make over, i give her a more female jaw, a smaller nose, bigger eyes, longer eye lashes, fuller lips, make her lips more symmetrical, perfect skin (so far is possible) and some other little things..

How would you do it?

lets me know what you think! thanks

Ruud

click here for the Retoucht image! (high resolution)

[Smokie]

Not bad dude.

[Cross]

Originally Posted by Peano

Nice work! 50 people will give 50 variations. Here's mine.

Heres Mine, a little too soft.

[Ant]

comments:

COLOR everywhere, it's a mess
EYELASHES - too long, not real looking
HAIR - huge mess, including eyebrows.
LIPS - cmon now..
Neck lines - simplify
SKIN - blur fest
EARPIERCING - always remove hole if no earrings on

Overall - attention to details. Don't remove information - good. Add information that isn't in the original.

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by Ant

comments:

COLOR everywhere, it's a mess
EYELASHES - too long, not real looking
HAIR - huge mess, including eyebrows.
LIPS - cmon now..
Neck lines - simplify
SKIN - blur fest
EARPIERCING - always remove hole if no earrings on

Overall - attention to details. Don't remove information - good. Add information that isn't in the original.

Okey thanks for the information. I will do something with it, but it is Glamour so what you say about 'EYELASHES - too long, not real looking' its glamour you know and thats just normal then so long eyelashes, and the color is did nothing with it, 'HAIR - huge mess, including eyebrows.' i dont do anything with it as only I burn the eyebrows a little bit. but thanks for the res of the information

Ruud

[Ant]

well then in your definition 'glamour' isn't even retouching - just illustration.

edit: in your opinion, is an ad for Maybelline 'glamour' retouched or is glamour only reserved for the Sears portraits?

[Ant]

Because I'm busy on an ad and don't wish to waste my time..

[Lasa]

Wow, ant, it must be great being you..keep up the good work.
Lasa

[Cassidy]

My feeble attempt

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by Ant

well then in your definition 'glamour' isn't even retouching - just illustration.

edit: in your opinion, is an ad for Maybelline 'glamour' retouched or is glamour only reserved for the Sears portraits?

pff, im just 14 years old that you know that, and im maybe not so good as you are, but you can also be nice and say what good is our what better can, you know and not the retoucht image ¿yelling out? 'afzeiken' (netherlands worth, i dont know the enlisch worth for it.)
so thanks.

[ruud92]

Thanks Cassidy for the reply!

[Cassidy]

sorry ruud, not meant as a reply, only meant as an adjunct

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

sorry ruud, not meant as a reply, only meant as an adjunct

yeah okey, but i dont knew how you call that

[Cassidy]

Originally Posted by ruud92

yeah okey, but i dont knew how you call that

call me soft and pliable )

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

call me soft and pliable )

im sorry for my bad englisch i have dyslexie so im not so good in it and im netherlands.. so haha, ik dont really understand what you say now

[Cassidy]

just another idea in the mix

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by Cassidy

just another idea in the mix

Oh okey

R.

[Lasa]

ruud92 don't worry about Ant..he's very high-ended.
Lasa

[Epos]

A cup of tea can work wounder

Here is a rough idea of some of the stuff i think "Ant" was talking about, thoue the hair is still a mess (the org pic is kinda that way so hard to do solve it) and i over did the blur on skin... and the eyes and mouth are a bit to shiny.. and so on and so on hehe

Well... the whole source image is a bit off for "glamour" imo... and way to low quality with all that jpeg distortion. U need pors to do a proper "blure"... so when u got a pic like this, a blur fest is kinda unavoidable. But hey... im no pro so..

And yeah... the skin still got some nasty body hair left *yikes* (and spots)... i can go on for ever :S But as i said.. its a rough idea of what I think "Ant" meant... some of the point at least :/ (right ant? or am i out on deep water?)

And hey, take it easy on him i really dident find anything offensive, just wise and helpfull advises. Dont take things to serious.... i just think the communication was a bit off, read it twise instead with a smile in mind.

Well.. i need to "glida till tuben" as we say sweden (stockholm)... going to the subway it is U guys have a good day/night (night it is here / where ever u r on this big/small globe.

Cheers!

[KR1156]

Here's my version guys.....i tried to even skintone as best as possible, noticed not too many ppl payed so much attention to that.

crtiques are welcome and very appreciated!


http://mikeldigital.com/images/eretouch.jpg

[prizo]

Mine.
Tried not to go overboard on the skin smoothing.

My Version

[prizo]

Originally Posted by Ant

comments:

COLOR everywhere, it's a mess
EYELASHES - too long, not real looking
HAIR - huge mess, including eyebrows.
LIPS - cmon now..
Neck lines - simplify
SKIN - blur fest
EARPIERCING - always remove hole if no earrings on

Overall - attention to details. Don't remove information - good. Add information that isn't in the original.

I think thats great info, Ant.
I didnt catch your post before I did my retouch.. I wish I had. I would've fixed the ear, eyebrows and neck.

All feedback shouldnt be "OMG GREAT JOB". Its only through real critique that any of us will get any better.

[prizo]

Originally Posted by Peano

Begin with "cmon now" for the lips. What guidance do you get from that? How about color "everywhere it's a mess"? Tell us how do you will use that comment to adjust color in this image

So you can't decipher 2 out of 7 points he made?
Than means he made 5 you can figure out... not a bad ratio. Those 5 had value, too.

Not everything has to be a warm-hearted fluffy hugfest.

My critique of yours is that it looks like the face is a painting thats been pasted onto a photo. The hair and body look real, but the face doesn't. The eyes are over-done and look toy-like. The facial skin is over-smoothed.

[Ziaphra]

I'm not sure which one I prefer...

[KR1156]

Ziaphra.....nice job removing that bkgrd object, really cleans the shot up and adds some pop.

[Ziaphra]

Thank you...it really bugged me.

[ruud92]

wow thanks for te reactions guys, okey ant was right for some things but i dont know how she try to mean it on te photo.. ( im sorry if you dont know what i mean to say) and thanks for te rest you know

R.

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by prizo

So you can't decipher 2 out of 7 points he made?
Than means he made 5 you can figure out... not a bad ratio. Those 5 had value, too.

Not everything has to be a warm-hearted fluffy hugfest.

My critique of yours is that it looks like the face is a painting thats been pasted onto a photo. The hair and body look real, but the face doesn't. The eyes are over-done and look toy-like. The facial skin is over-smoothed.

ehm i dont know what you mean about the eyes because i only did the eyelashes and my sister has longer than that so.. and the skin if you can see is there skins texture, and yes the jaw is to much.. but i did the body the same way.. and okey youre right about that not all things have to 'warm-hearted fluffy hugfest' be but, it wassnt usefull what she sayd only on a other way if she had more information set on it you know...

R.

[topretouch]

Here is my try.
Color
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g?t=1168060662

BW

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g?t=1168060706

[prizo]

Originally Posted by ruud92

ehm i dont know what you mean about the eyes...

I was referring to Peano.