Photo Retouching - - So... no one is gonna upload that D&B tutorial, wth? - Page 2

dianajenna · #16 06-27-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by c19h28O2

Guys,

As a newbie to this site and to retouching, I would like to say thanks to all the people who do put the time and effort in to helping us new guys out. Most of the guys on this forum do understand that you guys are busy and and that putting down what you know in a tutorial does take a lot of time and effort and if you can then we thank you.

Thanks for the above tutorials BTW

Cheers

Michael

AMEN! I agree.

shellby · #17 06-27-2007, 04:50 PM

but Heyrad explained EVERYTHING copy and paste it to your machine. Print it out and read it over and over again. Then do up an image step by step using his Dodge and Burn method. It is all there in black and white.

We are all really lucky here that he even disclosed how to do skin using dodge and burn as most retouchers out there at his level are reluctant to just tell people.

TheVeed · #18 06-27-2007, 05:02 PM

what a brat.

KR1156 · #19 06-27-2007, 05:24 PM

i think if i hear the words dodge & burn again im gonna put a bullet in my head!

(just joking around, i know newbies are eager to learn)

shellby · #20 06-28-2007, 03:48 AM

if you dont understand the tuturial perhaps you need to get your photoshop up to a level where you do. Do some online tutorials, get some books out. When you can uderstand his tutorial then you are ready to do it.

saby · #21 06-28-2007, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shellby

but Heyrad explained EVERYTHING ....

Hi Shellby,

where did he exactly?

saby

Godmother · #22 06-28-2007, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by saby

Hi Shellby,

where did he exactly?

saby

ok... I really really really don't understand.

I found this in less than 5 seconds because IN THIS SAME THREAD someone already link to it!!!!

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Originally Posted by shellby

From Heyrad's post:

Everything being discussed here so far can be considered a great way of achieving the end result. The important consideration here is flexibility. If you use a GRAY layer in an overlay/soft mode, you can dodge and burn with white or black till your heart's content.. The problem is, that if your dodging and burning are on the same layers-- no flexibility... If you REALLY wanna get your hands dirty and do things the smart way... Here's a method that I developed to help get the job done with the most flexibility and control...

After I remove the pimples and do light spotting on an image, I create a layer set and call it "D&B". In that layer set I create(in this order from bottom to top) adjustment layers... Curve(LIGHTEN), Curve(DARKEN),HUE(DESAT),CURVE(CONTRAST). On the LIGHTEN curve, I lighten the mids and fill the layer with black to hide. With this layer, I'll paint with white at about 1-5% depending to lighten dark spots on the skin. on the DARKEN curve I darken the mids and fill with black as well so that I can use this to darken light spots on the skin-- the goal here is to even out the skin tones. The HUE layer is used to desaturate the image. Lord knows we get tired of looking at a monitor. Desaturating helps my eyes when I'm working on fine detail. The CONTRAST curve is helpful to display the dark/light spots better-- again for my old eyes... I select a point on the CONTRAST curve that represents the dark/light spotting of the skin and I pump an S curve in it to bring out the contrast so I can see it better... After zooming in to about elevendy billion percent to work on the fine points of the skin, I begin to zoom out and use larger brushes... When I'm finished and happy with the results. I turn off the CONTRAST and HUE curves and VIOLA.... total control. Now you can color adjust your little heart out and not effect the dodging and burning. You've got total control of the dark and light curves and you can easily revisit them with your little paint brush.

Are you ppl even trying?

I'm not in a good mood this morning, maybe that's why I think this IS REALLY REALLY REALLY ANNOYING!!

Have a nice day everybody

Natalia

saby · #23 06-28-2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Godmother

ok... I really really really don't understand.

I found this in less than 5 seconds because IN THIS SAME THREAD someone already link to it!!!!...

Give the light for blind Natalia you mean this:

http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...tml#post114354

or it's in the tutorials

saby

Godmother · #24 06-28-2007, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by saby

Give the light for blind Natalia you mean this:

http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...tml#post114354

or it's in the tutorials

saby

Exactly that (I've quoted her already ya know?)

So... you really need a Tutorial? That's the most detailed explanation I've read about this technique

You have other ways to aproach it, but it's all the same concept.
And D&B (using one technique or the other) takes hours, a lot of hard work.
Good luck, it's the only way to go!

creeduk · #25 06-28-2007, 07:11 AM

It is true a tutorial with pictures etc will not really add any more value to the words already spoken. Look for any doge and burn tutorial/method and apply what you see there to what you have read here.

Basically things with the same essential color only show up because the light falling on them creates shadows and equally it creates highlights. Reduce both and there is your method.

I have watched it done and it takes a long time, it is a simple technique that requires a lot of patience and great resolution original (if you want to do it right)

saby · #26 06-28-2007, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Godmother

Exactly that (I've quoted her already ya know?)

...

where he(Heyrad) "...explaining everything... written by Shellby" in this thread???? above link for a thread he(Heyrad) had never written

saby

Godmother · #27 06-28-2007, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by saby

where he(Heyrad) "...explaining everything... written by Shellby" in this thread???? above link for a thread he(Heyrad) had never written

saby

Originally Posted by shellby
From Heyrad's post:

saby · #28 06-28-2007, 07:36 AM

Ok Natalia my next sentence will make U upset but,i don't mind because you're so far away from me. if i search about Heyrad's post i can get something else but NOT ABOUT THE D&B WHERE HE EXPLAINING EVERITHING

this was the cause of my question to shellby: where did he exactly

cheers
saby

Godmother · #29 06-28-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by saby

Ok Natalia my next sentence will make U upset but,i don't mind because you're so far away from me. if i search about Heyrad's post i can get something else but NOT ABOUT THE D&B WHERE HE EXPLAINING EVERITHING

this was the cause of my question to shellby: where did he exactly

cheers
saby

May be it would make me upset if I could understand it... but english is not my native lenguaje and I really don't know what you mean by: i don't mind because you're so far away from me

You can't find the post because it's not longer there ... he edited for some reason.

But Shelby quoted him, so you can read it from her quote.... what's the problem, hun?

xx

Natalia

saby · #30 06-28-2007, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Godmother

IS REALLY REALLY REALLY ANNOYING!!
Natalia

You have problem Natalia i guess.

I read this thread, found the links - it's not so hard even a man like me- i've read shellby's great quoting and i tried to search the original post, i couldn't so i took a question to shellby she may can tell me about and suddenly you wrote this s**t above and below you ask: what is the problem, hun? Your beautifull name relay softness why are you so aggressive?

... so far away physically

saby