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Old 04-27-2007, 07:54 AM
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Re: Skin texture

I refuse to respond further to this thread. If you find me rude, so be it, and my original statements stand. Get thicker skin, don't ask for a critique or GFY.
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:28 AM
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Re: Skin texture

Ant.. Not wanting to waste your time but could you please give us...button-pushers.. a thrill and post a before and after. Don't bother wasting your time on one of the images from this forum, but maybe one of the ones you've done in the past? It would take tops two seconds of your time but we'd be eternally grateful to see how it could and should be done.


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Old 04-27-2007, 08:50 AM
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Re: Skin texture

"Business is business, why pay $700 for something you can get for $200?"

you can't get it for $200, you know the statement.

I want it good,fast and cheap.

you can have it fast and cheap but not good
you can have it good and cheap but not fast
you can have it good and fast but not cheap

same with retouching

you can have it fast and cheap but blurred
you can have it good and cheap well not really it will probably still be blurred
you can have it good and fast but it will cost you $700+

I come to this forum to learn, and I have learned about quick not so good ways of doing things that are great when on set shooting and need to give the client an idea of how an image will look down and dirty. I have also learned how things should be done for my style of work and it is d&b with no shortcuts.

I miss Shelby being on here as she was always was pushing for the best way to do something and never was satisified with all the short cuts offered up. I think she learned all she could here and moved on and hopefully after a while she will be back to help others.

I have to say that for me there are only a few people who have really helped me progress. Shelby,Hayrad,cricket1961 and Ant.

I like to see a good harsh critique over all the pussyfooting that goes on here. If your here to learn be prepaired to hear the truth.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:13 AM
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Re: Skin texture

i did about 20 min of d&b on nacys pic, and left her degrunge on the right side.

def not looking to waste my time arguing with anyone, just posted it to show my OPINION of realistic looking skin opposed to blurred.

obviously it's still a little blotchy, without the resolution, i can't burn the counterparts to where i sloppily dodged.

--but my point being, this method is a lot more time consuming, but once you get the hang of it, it gets a whole lot faster, and can be a whole lot more worth it.

even on lower end pieces.

you may like it, you may think it sucks, whatever. could care less, but i would help anyone if interested.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:38 AM
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Re: Skin texture

Who is Ant?
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:42 AM
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Seems NY sent in its top reps...all of which are outrageously gifted retouchers... I for one stand in awe of their talent and presense here..

Lasa, button-pusher-extraordinaire
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:28 AM
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Re: Skin texture

There are a number of threads right now, in addition to this one, with people asking about skin and texture.

Skin is probably the #1 factor when it comes to retouching, be it high-end or for home use.

But like so many have already stated, there are a multitude of various methods that people can choose from to retouch skin.

It would be interesting if we had a gallery or challenge or something, where we all had the same image, and used different techniques on it. That way, people would have a better understanding of what they want to achieve, how much time it would take, and how they could incorporate certain techniques into their own personal use. I think something along these lines would be a good learning experience for everyone, really, be it novice or expert.

And that's the point of this forum, to share the wealth.
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:21 PM
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Re: Skin texture

It's all down to the time versus results equation. The more time you spend the better results you'll get. Doing a cover shot? (not that I ever have) spend a day on it and it'll look great. Whizzing thru an album of friends and family? Setup a degrunge action and spend a couple of minutes on each.

Ant, fair enough you think you're the 'dogs' but so often on forums you get one person like you who rants and rants, when push comes to shove they turn out to be worse than everybody else. So post something or STFU.

You can say what you like about my attempts, I've been doing it two months as a hobby and this place has been a great resource. Who knows (the way it's going) maybe one day I might actually commit to trying to make a go of it professionally but for now I'm happy soaking up all the knowledge I can.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:10 PM
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Re: Skin texture

Ant, judging by your Avatar and the tone of your signature statement you obviously think you are better than everyone else here. So I ask you, W H Y D O N ' T Y O U G O A W A Y? Because clealry, and according to yourself, you have better things to do, are much more talented, we produce atrocious examples, are glad handers...oh and the list goes on. So why don't you take your too good for everyone attitude, snobby, up yourself remarks, offensive opinions and get the f outta here? Gotta laugh, you're such a fool and you don't even know
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Old 04-27-2007, 10:50 PM
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Re: Skin texture

I'm mostly a lurker on these forums but I just had to reply to this thread. Instead of Ant going away, how about people get some thick skin when someone says they don't like your work. There have been many threads where Ant's given some really good advice and yes there have also been many threads where his only advice is "it sucked, quit trying to retouch." And on most of them, after looking at the image I tend to agree. I'd rather have someone that's gonna be up front and critical about my work than someone who "sugar coats" things all the time. I'm glad there's someone like Ant on these forums. I have to admit I'm a dreaded "button pusher." But thanks to reading posts from him and others on here, they've shown me the "error of my ways" so to speak. The only way you're going to get better at anything is from people pointing out what you're doing wrong, not people telling you how well you're doing things right.

(sorry... I got a little "quotation marks" happy there)
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