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Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

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Old 05-03-2007, 02:56 PM
SchlinkyMalinky SchlinkyMalinky is offline
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Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

Ok so I'm getting into DnB now, what a great tool for retouching!!!

I know it's not perfect (1st try n'all) but the improvement is definitely noticable. I'm now thinking about having two layers of adjustment (dodge) one for pores and blemish scars etc and another much broader level for general inconsistancies in the overall tone of the skin. Is this a good idea?

Anyways, I'm rambling now so have a look and leave your thoughts please good or bad, it'll only take you 2 secs

Thanks

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Old 05-03-2007, 03:44 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

very nicely done
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:42 AM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

Stille not sure what y'all mean with dodging and burning skin (pretty new here). Can someone post a link or preferably a tutorial? I tried a search but the few I read seemed to end up with discussions insted of technique :-)
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:26 AM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

Burning is making an area darker and dodging is making an area lighter. I think it comes from working with film, when you're projecting the image on to the light sensitive paper in the dark room you can hold back the light from various areas exposing it less and this results in a lighter part of the image. Alternatively you can expose the paper to more light, essentially 'burning' the area more and making it darker.
Ok so that's my understanding of dodging and burning, there are tools to do this in Photoshop but I use a curve adjustment layer which lightens everything then apply a layer mask and invert it. I will then paint in the areas I want lighter with a white brush on the mask set to a low opactity. So if you have a dark patch on the skin (any size) you can lighten it up so it matches the surrounding area. This smooths out the skin without having to use any blur.
If I'm wrong on any counts please feel free to step in and correct me and if ur still not 'getting it' Peer a search on t'internet will show you all you need to know, that's where I found out.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:09 AM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

Thanks Schlinky - I do know the regular dodge and burn tools. I'm not just not completely sure how you use the technique for skin retouching.. My own approach is good makeup and spot healing/patch/clone stamp - but there's always room for improvement :-)
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:35 AM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

You still need a lot of D&B on the skin, but it's a very good start.

Now, don't blur the hair, remove it if you don't like it, but don't blur it.

your looks great, don't lose it. I'd recomend copying the one from our left and invert/transform it to fit the other ear.

There's a LOT of magenta in her ear and body, take care of that too (Selective color adjustment layer, down with magenta in the reds, then mask out everything but).

Just my two cents, hope this helps you know where you're standing
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:25 AM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

Dodge & burn isn't a one-tool-fixes-all-probs solution. Imo, the appropriate tool for fixing the skin in this photo is careful skin selection and blurring.

Less is more:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...20yearsOff.jpg
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:13 AM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

Thanks for the input GM, it's still work in progress and I have got a long way to go, you're right. The blurring was my attempt at a simulated depth of field. I hadn't noticed the ear lol I did a gradient fill to match the lips. I'll have a look at the magenta thing in general tho.
RS can't really see what you've done at that resolution and a fairer comparison would be my retouch as the before picture. 20 years off?!! How old do you think she is?!!
Regarding the 'careful skin selection' you've lost me there, what exactly do you mean?
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:06 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

How long did it take to do the D&B that you've shown so far?
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn iz da Schnizzle!

Not too long, about half an hour from before to after, so around 15 minutes DnBin. I've gotta tighten up my technique I know!
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