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Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

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Old 05-08-2007, 08:19 AM
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Re: Shlinky

yeah, that looks horrible.


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Here's the best glamour retouch workflow I have come across. It gets rid of the "grunge" but keeps the small details to whatever extent you wish. It's not original ... got it froma tutorial on "removing the grunge" or somthing close, but here's the basic flow:

• Duplicate the image
• Zoom in to the offending area, and Gaussian blur until that feature just blurs out - note the radius and cancel the blur.
• High pass filter to the radius noted above.
• Gaussian Blur the HPF image by 1/3 of the radius noted above.
• Invert the HPF image
• Blend HPF layer with Linear Light
• Layer mask the HPF layer - black, removing the effect
• Paint white back to the layer mask in the areas where you wish to remove the "grunge". In your case, the pixillated areas. Use a soft brush at about 50% opacity

The grunge disappears, but the small details like skin pores, hairs, etc., remains.

Here's that workflow applied to your image with HPF radius 2.7 px. and blurred by 0.9 px.

Try it, you'll like it

Nice pic, by the way.

Stosh

P.S. The method above is copyrighted by byRo, a moderator at RetouchPRO. The complete method and explanation may be found at:

http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=213

It works a treat!
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:23 AM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

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Swampy, ok will do thanks.

Ant, feels like I'm being told off by my teacher, was almost expecting a 'see me' at the bottom!
Yeah you're right it probably is too sharp overall. But generally the skin isn't hideous right? I agree with your points but don't understand the "open" circles around the eyes and how do I sort out the green/cyan in the hair?
I'm gonna look at the areas you highlighted tho, like those stray hairs, the slight blemish on the lower jaw and my dodgy background masking which I missed on my old crt.
For the stray hairs are we talking healing brush?
No, overall, the skin looks pretty good. It is way oversharpened though. I would open up the eyes (brighten them) so you can see detail and whatnot. they are plugged up. for the hair, pull a curve or whatever works selectively on those areas that it needs correction. The skin may be cleaned up, but the wrinkles under her eye near the nose need to be de-emphasized/simplified/reduced, not pronounced like they are now.
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:07 AM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

Right, I'll get on it. I'm getting to the stage now where I wish i had a wacom!
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

In addition to what Ant and Swampy have said about sharpening, stray hairs, facial lines, eyes, etc I would suggest that you clone out that earring. It is distracting and adds nothing to the idea of 'trapped'.

And speaking of the theme:'trapped' you might want to consider giving it a closer crop with a square aspect ratio so that it gives the feeling of looking out of a cell window.

You might also want to consider pulling a curve to give it a higher contrast which will emphasize the 'sunlight and bars' effect.

Finally you might even want to simplify it one step further and take it to black and white. It fits better with the predicament of 'trapped'.

Sincerely Syd
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:17 AM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

Ok, very roughly, here's what I mean. I think this way it simplifies everything a lot more and adds to the feeling of 'trapped'.

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Old 05-09-2007, 12:19 AM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

I tend to disagree about the "eye opening." If you are going for a harsh sunlit look, then I think that her expression works really well. Depending on your intended "feel" of the shot, I think you shouldn't mess with her eyes. I do agree, however, that her hair has a color shift, and that her skin could use a little softening. Go too far, though, and you loose that intense feel of the shot.

And, yes... GET A WACOM! ARE YOU CRAZY!?
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Old 05-09-2007, 10:33 PM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

Ok I've tried my best, I couldn't get the results I wanted from tweaking what I'd already done so i went back to the original file and started from scratch. Skin seems a bit more refined now and I tried to look at all the issues raised. I was a bit stumped on the cyan/green cast so i ended up colour matching the other side.
I'm getting quite pleased with this one. If I've missed anything let me know.

And yes, I'd love a wacom but they're quite expensive for where I'm at presently, maybe one day soon if I eventually make some money from all this..........

RIGHT! FEEDBACK!! (Thanks)

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Old 05-10-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

Ant, Swampy and Syd give such dead-on right advice. To me, I guess, at this point, the only thing that bugs me is the slight highlight under/next to her marionette lines. It gives her a bit of an 'aged' look that doesn't seem to fit with what you've done to the rest of the image.
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:42 AM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

Don't know about that highlight, gimme a clue!

Anyone else? feedback is sorely needed!

Thanks
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:10 AM
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Re: Ok I lied.......Be Harsh this time

lol That's the shape of her head
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