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Old 06-24-2007, 07:15 PM
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Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

I'm just now attempting to do my first face retouch on a Camera RAW image. A few days ago I did a dry run for the fun of it on the same image as a jpg. (I didn't have the RAW file yet.) I'm using the dodge and burn method with the two separate Curves adjustment layers painting white on the black mask. I've got the soft white brush set to 100% opacity with flow at 4%.

Ok, why is it that the jpg image seemed to come out looking better than the RAW file is so far? When I clicked darken darken darken on a pixel on the jpg file it just gradually darkened the same color tone. On the RAW file it's darkening in a grey tone. Right now I'm very disappointed in how the RAW file retouch is going.

What am I doing wrong?

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Old 06-25-2007, 02:04 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

Should the Blending Mode be set to something other than Normal, maybe?

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Old 06-25-2007, 02:24 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

Use a layer with 50% grey set to Overlay. Then paint with white and black on low opacity. Its a simple effective way to dodge and burn.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

Thanks. I added the gray layer, and I've been using it along with the two Curves layers. If one way doesn't look right, I undo and try the other.

With the Camera Raw image the skin is so very mottled when you zoom in. I guess that's normal? It's just A LOT of darkening and lightening compared to the jpg image. So, it seems that dodging and burning on a RAW image is harder and more intense than a jpg. Am I right in that assumption?

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Old 06-26-2007, 02:45 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

Dont you adjust the raw image before taking it into PS?
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:53 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

This is my first RAW image that I've worked with. So, by adjust before opening PS I guess I don't know what you mean. What all should I do before I switch to PS? I'm clueless, I guess. Thanks for any advice. I would sure appreciate it!

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Old 06-26-2007, 05:19 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

Wellll, I guess I'm going to have to resort to Cloning and Healing, because my usual dodge and burn method isn't working. The lady's skin up close and personal is a texture of tiny white and orangey spotting. So every time I try to dodge on a dark orange spot it just turns a peachy color. I must be braindead, because I'm not getting it yet what is so great about Camera Raw. It's giving me one big headache.

Any ideas? I sure would appreciate it.

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Old 06-26-2007, 06:47 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

don't forget that after you dodge & burn, your skin color, wether it be a little blotchy or whatever, is not set in stone.

try masking out the skin, and doing a little color work after you've cleaned up the skin and D&B'd. Even out the tone.

Dodge & Burn is not the miracle! just another step in a long process.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

Right now I'm cloning and spot healing, and every now and then trying d&b again. It's just really weird to me that the same image as a jpg was fairly easy to dodge and burn, yet now that I've got the RAW file it all seems to be a mess. Instead of the skin color lightening a little it turns a strange peachy color. I've got the blending mode set to Normal for each of the two Curves d&b layers. Is that the right mode?

And I'm still not sure what pellepiano means by "Don't you adjust the raw image before taking it into PS?" I mean it doesn't look to me that you can dodge and burn until you do get the image in PS. I'm missing something. Yikes!

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Old 06-26-2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Dodge and Burn Problems on a Camera RAW Image

i use the same method, 2 curves, in normal mode..to D&B.

but after i'm done with that, 99% of the time i start a new folder for my color moves. skin color often is blotchy to begin with, especially with digital photography. D&B will def enhance the uggly color areas. so you have to even out the skin tone, be it overall, or in certain sections. try desat some of the red's & yellows a bit, that's usually a good starting point. then do what you do to get that healthy looking skin!
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