Photo Retouching - - The demystification of dave hill! let's all help! - Page 13

Sistere · #**181** 11-06-2007, 07:04 PM

Hi Folks,

Great thread!

Last year we were shooting some Green Screen shots for commercial use. Here is a candid I snapped in between the actual shots. I played around with it a few months ago not really trying to look like Dave Hill, but experimenting with the D&Bing and using contrast and sharpening. Just my little contribution to the conversation.

From what I can tell by studying DH's work...it really is in the lighting and the post work is only used to accentuate and 'edge up' the lighting.

So this photo will look flat when compared to Hill's. But I think he uses some of the same techniques. Or maybe not

Damien

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KR1156 · #**182** 11-06-2007, 07:17 PM

looks like she has some very demonic and scary 'bout to burst out of her stomache!

marclile · #**183** 11-06-2007, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sistere

Hi Folks,

Great thread!

Last year we were shooting some Green Screen shots for commercial use. Here is a candid I snapped in between the actual shots. I played around with it a few months ago not really trying to look like Dave Hill, but experimenting with the D&Bing and using contrast and sharpening. Just my little contribution to the conversation.

From what I can tell by studying DH's work...it really is in the lighting and the post work is only used to accentuate and 'edge up' the lighting.

So this photo will look flat when compared to Hill's. But I think he uses some of the same techniques. Or maybe not

Damien

Link to larger Version

that's actually very good. i like it. i don't think it looks flat at all. looks a lot closer to Hill's than some others i've seen. can you go into any detail about the techniques that you used?

Sistere · #**184** 11-06-2007, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KR1156

looks like she has some very demonic and scary 'bout to burst out of her stomache!

LOL!!

Indeed she does!

I guess I should have stated that since this was a candid shot, I didn't get around to doing any major retouches like stomach bulges...lol

Seriously, this girl has a killer figure...I guess she was exhaling (Hence the hair blowing) mixed with bad posture; I don't know. But you should see some of her combat sports ads we've done; great figure.

Damien
http://www.digitalsistere.com

KR1156 · #**185** 11-06-2007, 09:13 PM

i know it was just a messing around file/shot, i was just joking!

mr.aj · #**186** 11-07-2007, 09:47 AM

i think we are wrong about dave hill, he almost adds to half of his backgrounds...watch the videos...especially the band flying through the air. If he is doing all of this background work, why wouldn't he be doing anything else? Also like a previous poster said, in one of his videos he joked about all you need is a lucisart filter. He is good, don't get me wrong, but he is doing post. lets just accept it, and drive on.

aj

plasticjack · #**187** 11-09-2007, 01:09 PM

here is my submission. all i did here entirely was dodge and burn. then added an unsharp mask filter after all that was complete.

stock: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/316755

RedRum · #**188** 11-09-2007, 01:14 PM

Hi Guys...im really new at this retouch-production but i try to get this effekt in some pictures, idk if ya guys like it or not....

greetz RedRum

pellepiano · #**189** 11-09-2007, 01:53 PM

Very nice images from both of you ( plasticjack and RedRum ). Different methods but both are very enjoyable.

superkoax · #**190** 11-09-2007, 02:08 PM

this thread has coem a loooong way now! I must admit I'm impressed with all of the submissions here...Every picture looks different and all with different techniques...on the way here I have learned a great deal!

Thanks to all!

plasticjack · #**191** 11-09-2007, 02:26 PM

one more before and after. more dodge and burn/unsharp mask with luminosity. hill may possibly use lucisart as a reference for dodging and burning but i would highly doubt, in fact i would say with almost 100% certainty that he doesn't even bother with it. one thing for sure is that when using lucis art your photos get extremely grainy. i personally find it one of the more useless filters out there. especially when you can get far superior results just dodging and burning. Another key aspect is working with 16-bit images and not 8-bit images pulled off of the web. The difference is astounding. Far greater tonal depth and gradations which is essential for pulling this surreal style off.

EDIT: Added a toned down version of the latter.

marclile · #**192** 11-09-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by superkoax

this thread has coem a loooong way now! I must admit I'm impressed with all of the submissions here...Every picture looks different and all with different techniques...on the way here I have learned a great deal!

Thanks to all!

agreed... thank you to everyone. i've learned a lot from this post

punkjumper · #**193** 11-09-2007, 07:35 PM

I did an image using the things I've learned in this thread. I'm no photographer so don't have the skills or equipment to have a good starting image so I'm more stuck starting with point and shoot snapshots. This is what I was able to get for a first try. any feedback is welcomed.

ProjectLam · #**194** 11-10-2007, 07:57 PM

i actually like redrums... what did you do to achieve those results? here's my latest... not necessarily too cartoon-like... also, flickr took out a lot of the color. my final retouched photo has a bit more color to her skin...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2080/...41bc169e_o.jpg

original:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/...bb1d7fba_o.jpg

prizo · #**195** 11-11-2007, 09:57 PM

Again:
I AM NOT TRYING TO COPY DAVE HILL

But he, amongst others, does influence me. Here is one of my latest.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2055/...3509edbd18.jpg

I know not everyone here has lights so if there is any interest I may post a large outtake from this session.