The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[namphoto]

Actually the lights he uses are pretty inexpensive monolights: White Lightnings, made by Paul C. Bluff. Assuming he has used anywhere from 3-8 lights in a shoot, each light is 670 for the highest model, and 480 for the second highest model, so.. 3840-5360 on his monolights, plus another 1000 or so for light modifiers and another 2500 for his profoto ring flash and pack.

But I can assure EVERYONE the expenses aren't a special ingredient, it just tops it off really.. In the photo below, off of Hill's website, this shot has no special lighting, no special tricks, but retouch work.. No kicker's no ring flash fill.. Looks like a big softbox and he just took a candid shot, but he still made it work. So figure that one out..

[snook305]

Originally Posted by pellepiano

Here is a before and after of Dave Hill. I think its been posted before, but should not hurt to show again.
It shows some really nice post work.

Yeh Like many bone heads in here think..
It is the lighting...
hahahaha

[namphoto]

..look at my post snook.. clearly there isnt any type of kicker or ring flash.. the lights help.. if you plan on being just like dave hill.. but im pretty sure we're trying to demystify his retouching, which with the example I have shown.. can be done to photos with minimal lighting.. not the whole two kickers two soft boxes, over head beauty dish, and ring flash deal.

[longside1]

Hi guys,

I took time to improve my earlier shot. I'm very happy with the results would appreciate some feedback....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/...e09f7bee_b.jpg

Thanks!

[rudym]

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?th...=4#post6516764

[snook305]

The last post is theFirst Decent post since the beginning...:+}
Snook

[longside1]

i agree, I'm doing a shoot this weekend (using wrap around flash) so intend to process the image as per the Model Mayhem Tutorial above.

I'll post the results next week....

[skydog]

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/r...erminate_N.htm

Dave made USA today. Looking closely at the picture...lights are important, but a lot of post processing. Look at the building and doors...

[Mtmm]

There is also five new photos at Daves web site.

[snook305]

Mtmm..
we are still waiting for the tutorial.. Must be really good it is taking so long...
we are all excited...
When do you think you have it ready..?
Snook

[Mtmm]

I haven´t promised any tutorial. Sorry, not gonna happen. I can show my lighting setups with videos, but retouching, nope.

[longside1]

Mtmm,

From your last post are we to assume that their is in fact more to your post processing then simply Dodge & Burn, as you implied earlier in this thread?

[snook305]

Longside..
Mtmm is what you call a leecher in many forums..
Just comes in and ask ask ask takes all the information and then Bluntly says he won't offer any help on how he get;s the effect.
The lighting as we all know is basic , helping in the final process, and can be seen all over the web and even on Daves own website.. No trickier there. why do you think dave shows his lighting set up.. Duh, b/c it is rather basic on a professional level lighting.

The people ringing in light Mtmm saying it is just lighting and D&B are basically Full of it.
we all know that...:+}

Sounds harsh but it is reality, if this was my forum I would even allow people like Mtmm in here...

The funny thing is, There are many, that I think Mtmm is from like some where in BFE country that why would he even care to share some of his info, after all he is copying some technique that many do , and many can have done if they need for a client from any "well" rounded retoucher.
Plus the look is really old already unless your going to shoot some gangster rap wannabe or Pokeman punk band in the VERY near future...:+}

Just my honest feeling on the post...:+}
Every day, do not know if it is old age or not..:+}, I am getting more on the thinking too help people as much as possible and that is the most important thing in life, I think it goes in every aspect of life. I feel better these days helping out people rather than be paranoid about people copying you...
It has all been done and can be done, there is no one trick pony that no-body cannot copy.

By the way when I used to get that , I call it more like the Jill greenberg, jim ficus, etc.. look, it is all pretty similar...:+}
too get that sheen and saturated look to the clothing I would go into Nik Color eFX plug in and do a Midnight Blue or Sepia action on them and then erase where I did not want the effect re: skin and some hight lights in the clothing etc..
The sponge the colors to liking...
That give everything that Sheen shine look as the filter has like a blurring option which can also be exaggerated with Highpass glowing tech.

Hope Mtmm comes up with that leecher Tutorial real soon...:+}
Snook

[snook305]

Originally Posted by longside1

Mtmm,

From your last post are we to assume that their is in fact more to your post processing then simply Dodge & Burn, as you implied earlier in this thread?

Of- course there is...
That is what makes me angry about people like him...:+}
He/They think we/you all are "Stupid"...:+}
Just like all the "It's the Lighting" crowd...
Sure the lighting helps with Dave's look of Burned out rim lighting on the side and Ring for fill to give more depth to the image..
Snook

[rudym]

What about "Kevlar Vest Girl" tutorial did anyone try it out.