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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 08-29-2008, 07:10 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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those shots look very "dave hill", before he takes them to post production, i am a little mystified as the one with all the lights in the shot should look like a "normal photo" because of where the camera is but i think some post work has been done on this one?!?!
You mean that setup photo? I have done nothing to it, not even levels. I did shoot it with ring flash. So that photo is a complete raw.
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:35 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Guys, i think part of the effect is coming from the very specific skin tone and color, apart of the ultra revealing details.
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Old 08-29-2008, 05:09 PM
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awesome site and photography!!!

wow your site and work is awesome pellpiano, any chance you can share some of your techniques for that super smooth skin loo with retained sharpness and definition, what about your lighting set-ups?


by the way whats the difference between a kicker light and a normal flash head.

I own a 4 head interfit stellar 300 kit with softboxes and brolleys, is there any chance with these 4 studio flash heads i can create lighting which will allow me to to get such results? and how would i position these lights if i was shooting a couple of people?

thanks all and sorry if the questions sound obvious i am a beginner compared to you guys. thanks in advance.
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Old 08-30-2008, 02:40 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Thank you morpheus1870 for your kind words.

I think there are some photos of one of Daves setups in this thread ( before and after image ) , oh I found it ... http://www.pellepiano.com/thread_images/davehill_ab.jpg

There you see two bara strobes from behind and then you need a minimum of one from front to.

A kicker is not a physical thing but a function. According ti Google its "Directional illumination from the back, off to one side of the subject"

For different types of lighting setups with image examples , see this great and long thread http://www.modelmayhem.com/po_big.ph...id=96872&page=

I use a lot of different setups, but most common is with som kicker lights.

For skin I use a mix of different techniques youll find on this fine site.
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Old 08-30-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Hey...pellepiano...long time no see...
How you been doing?
In any case just wanted to say 2 things..
Do not forget to either flag those Kickers or Put Grids on them so you do not have flare in the lens...:+}
Also forget all those stupid complicated contrast masks..
Just get your hands on Color efex pro 3.0 and dig into three filters..
Pro contrast, bleach bypasss, and tonal contrast...
You have the Dave Hill look with a click or 2...
Granted you have the light right..:+]
PS. Mtmm.. your still a bonehead for not helping people...:+]
Snook
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Old 08-30-2008, 09:50 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Maybe you are not the right person to teach Pelle how to shoot And as always, keep crying.
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:49 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Here is the typical 5 points lighting diagram...typical dave hill's set-up. It is nothing special other than the use of ringflash as fill. Even he admits he gets a bit bored of it.

The key is either an Octa/ softbox or beauty dish. For high contrast low key look, stick grid on beauty dish. The other variation is to place the key in butterfly position with a boom arm.

The kickers or rim lights can be bare standard reflectors, grid spots or strip softboxes. Grid spots or hard lights do better job of bringing out textures of clothing/skin than softboxes. Flags or cutters or barndoors should be used if bare reflector (wide angle coverage) is used to avoid lens flare, depending how steep you aim the kickers toward the camera.

If you don't have ringflash, you can still create high contrast lighting with a harder type of key light, like beauty dish with grid, softbox with eggcrates or fresnel spot. You just have to think outside the box rather than using the typical 45 degree key and fill set-up which is quite boring in my opinion.
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

just out of curiosity, why are so many of you so interested in his style, why dont you just go figure out something that you like and stick with that? Surprised this threads focus hasnt shifted over to "How to legally change your current name from what it is now, to Dave Hill" or to "What kind of clothes Dave Hill wears and his favorite stores to shop at" or "The Dave Hill Diet"
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Old 08-31-2008, 05:44 AM
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...why dont you just go figure out something that you like and stick with that?
Thats what this thread aims to do, fugure out how the Dave Hill effect is achieved as many people like this style
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:06 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

LOL I gothca! then this thread should be called the "Demystification of the lucis art effect"
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