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Old 09-01-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I have three white lightnings, two 1600s and one 3200 for doing regular bang around stuff when i dont want to shlep into the city and rent, I like them and the best part is, I got the three heads, an octa box, a large softbox, med softbox, grids, 13 ft stands, booms and cases for less than one profoto pack with no heads. Not to turn this into a white lightning thread tho
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Old 09-01-2008, 03:37 PM
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yeah. but please in antoher thread next time
i think dave himself is using a mix of white lighting strobes and a profoto ringflash! so, if you want dave-hill-results: go for it
how do u know what make of ringflash he uses?
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Old 09-01-2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

You can tell from the "Behind the Scenes" on dave hills website
www.davehillphoto.com

I guess he's using the soft light reflector on his proring right?
Or is it the close up reflector?
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Old 09-01-2008, 04:34 PM
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You can tell from the "Behind the Scenes" on dave hills website
www.davehillphoto.com

I guess he's using the soft light reflector on his proring right?
Or is it the close up reflector?
how much would that ringflash cost, roughly?
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Old 09-01-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Just look for Profoto proring Pro-7
In europe he's around 1250 Euro incl. VAT.
But you need a batterypack too! 3500 euro's that is
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Old 09-01-2008, 05:04 PM
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Just look for Profoto proring Pro-7
In europe he's around 1250 Euro incl. VAT.
But you need a batterypack too! 3500 euro's that is
hold sh*t, that's a lot of money
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Old 09-01-2008, 05:22 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I'll be back to the lights later. Two things:

1) Going beyond the subject in the picture...look at the backgrounds in Dave's pictures. Very smooth, crisp colors, nice detail. I know the lights help, but there still has to be some interesting post processing.
2) Some have given us hell for wanting to create Dave's look, but as djslyda states we are just trying to understand the technique used to add to our own arsenal. I really see little difference between Fiscus and Dave. They also both tend to shoot the same type of clients. Who copied who and they learned the technique from someone or experimented like hell to achieve their look.
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:02 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Around and around we go...:+}
As I have stated.. the lights help.. but in no way what's so EVER make the post process.
Cracks me how this keeps going around and around..
The lighting is pretty basic and very common. Nothing new or strange there.
Ficus and other were doing that before Dave hill popped his first zit.
I do have to agree with many here is just try and shooting nice with the lighting.. Not just you in a park or something.. get a interesting looking person or idea like Mtmm did (copying dave hills UFC shots) but at least he tried all around to get something. The lights is just the first basic thing but once you have cool background, cool props, some gangster tattooed dude with Gold teeth and good hair and make-up you will have about 80% the dave hill look.
Then his obviously "Lucis" Contrast masking or how ever you want to do it, you will have a comparable dave hill shot...:+} sort of.
A lot here want to take a pretty boring picture to begin with and press some action and get the dave hill look.. aint gonna happen.
Again this has all been mentioned before by many others.
I really do not think there is a "trick", actually I know it.
In any case most of us like to pick out things here an there to use with our own images. I would never want to copy anybody, specially dave hill...
Talented but more of a one trick pony who will fizzle out.
Most importantly is to go out and try it...:+}
Snook

PS. That was meant as a compliment to Mtmm b/c after thinking about it, he is the only one that has tried to even go out and do some good productions and ideas and has come the closest along with ichmario (sp)?.
That is the most important really.
I have only seen about 2-3 postings with any "real" production shoots with their effects..
All others have some other type lit shot or bad production or actually no production.
Snook

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Old 09-01-2008, 06:19 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

"If i didn't have to spend so much time retouching, maybe i could spend more time getting work!"

"About 70 percent of my time is spent behind a computer, and probably less than 10 percent behind a camera. I used to prefer the retouching more, but now i think it's the shooting; But i can't wait to get home to retouch the images i really like! Aside from that, you've still got to do the stuff you don't like and that's really tedious."

2 quotes fromt the Dave Hill interview in Digital SLR magazine
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:37 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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"If i didn't have to spend so much time retouching, maybe i could spend more time getting work!"

"About 70 percent of my time is spent behind a computer, and probably less than 10 percent behind a camera. I used to prefer the retouching more, but now i think it's the shooting; But i can't wait to get home to retouch the images i really like! Aside from that, you've still got to do the stuff you don't like and that's really tedious."

2 quotes fromt the Dave Hill interview in Digital SLR magazine


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