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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 09-02-2008, 02:49 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

i totally agree with what Snook has just said in his last post. I think this thread is just going to rumble on forever, there really is no secret formula, decent light set up, imaginative shoot idea, and post processing incorporating a ton of dodge and burn and incremental sharpening of the image.

For the love of god, can someone please close this thread!
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:24 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Have you ever looked closely how they light subjects in movies? Dave is using pretty similar lighting. I have made mistakes earlier trying to lit a subject from every angle leaving not enough good shadows to work with. I just moved to 5-point system using ring flash with much lower power. I bought a third generator just for ring.

Here is a sample.

Key - upper right pretty close with a beauty dish (gold reflector)
Ring - front, minimum power just for fill
Umbrella - upper left, just for fill
2 rear lights with 30 degree grids.

http://www.bodynet.fi/mayhem/nyman5.jpg
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:12 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Mtmm...nice...would you show the pic straight out of the camera prior to any post processing.
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:38 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Have you ever looked closely how they light subjects in movies? Dave is using pretty similar lighting. I have made mistakes earlier trying to lit a subject from every angle leaving not enough good shadows to work with. I just moved to 5-point system using ring flash with much lower power. I bought a third generator just for ring.

Here is a sample.

Key - upper right pretty close with a beauty dish (gold reflector)
Ring - front, minimum power just for fill
Umbrella - upper left, just for fill
2 rear lights with 30 degree grids.

http://www.bodynet.fi/mayhem/nyman5.jpg
Very cool I keep thinking about getting the ring light for fill seems it makes some nice highlights maybe worth $500 for that Alien bee one.
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:49 AM
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Mtmm...nice...would you show the pic straight out of the camera prior to any post processing.
http://www.bodynet.fi/kuvat/nymanraw.jpg
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Old 09-02-2008, 12:04 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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it's 'just' the amy dresser technique (well, i think, it is amy dresser). select with a smooth lasso which part you want to darken or lighten and take a curve-adjustment-layer to do that. in this image, there are aprox. 70 curve layers before that, i cleaned the skin to get more the drawn-like effect. damn, my english sux and also some dodge&burn with just a layer in overlay mode for the quick lazy technique

Ich.Mario - Any chance you can post any straight out of the camera "before" shots of those?

- much appreciated
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

For those who have been paying attention, I'm pretty sure the answers are in this thread.

Last edited by Michael Bonner; 09-03-2008 at 12:52 AM.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:06 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I´m not posting photos here that you can go and retouch them. So please dont upload my photos to this server. These are jpg versions, if I want anybody to retouch anything, I will post 300dpi version.
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:28 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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For those who have been paying attention, I'm pretty sure the answers are in this thread.
From the tips and the information provided I've been happy with the results I've gotten.

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Old 09-03-2008, 04:17 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

honestly, i think everyones impression on the DH effect is what you make of it. From what I know.... yes, an important factor of the 'look' falls heavily on the lighting, because once you have the lighting down, its much easier to manipulate the shadows and highlights etc, in the post processing.

i gave up on the DH look a long time ago, its a signature look thats already being used.

heres an example of what i learned from the 'effect' so long ago, i stopped trying to replicate it.....

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3224/dheffectrn3.jpg
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