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Old 09-03-2008, 02:27 PM
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http://www.tmax100.com/peopleimages/pl_images/p49.jpg

A mix og greenberg and Hill. Its all in the light!

nice shot, what sort of light setup did you use, a 5-point setup?
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:28 PM
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Snook I some how do not believe you got the same exact effect Mtmm is getting with one-click plug ins.
Post an image and I'll do it for you..
I am not trying to belittle anybodies work..
Give me the image and I'll post it..
I did spend maybe 4-5 minutes doing some dodging and Burning...
waiting for you image..:+]
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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nice shot, what sort of light setup did you use, a 5-point setup?
Lokk here for setup: http://www.fotopia.no/fullnews.asp?newsid=4361
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:31 PM
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Other plug ins, you could try: ReDynaMix & Viveza
I have Viveza but never really liked it..
I think it it kind of clumsy really... I do not like the selection being a round selection... Unless I am missing something??
What would you do with it to get even close?
Just curios?
Mr. Contrast works pretty well also..
Of course the bigger and better the file to start with helps a lot. I use 30 megapixel images or my 1DsMII images..
The P30 images hold up much more information..:+]
Snook

TOPAZ adjust can get you pretty close also..
They all are getting to the same effect.. lifting shadows and dropping highlights or exaggerating the highlights if you want..
Actually think mine is better than yours...:+]
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:41 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Why do I need to post an image? Can you not show a before and after of yours or any old stock photo? I mean if its a one click plug-in deal you should be able to take any old photograph and select the Dave Hill preset.
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:50 PM
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Why do I need to post an image? Can you not show a before and after of yours or any old stock photo? I mean if its a one click plug-in deal you should be able to take any old photograph and select the Dave Hill preset.
There you go...Up in my last post..made with the original from Mtmm
It is actually a couple of clicks only..
Not one...:+]
Then maybe 3-4 minutes Dodging and burning..
Take in mind that was a horribly small jpeg....

I think I proved my point...:+]
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

[QUOTE=snook305;204849]I have Viveza but never really liked it..
I think it it kind of clumsy really... I do not like the selection being a round selection... Unless I am missing something??
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Acutally the Viveza system, which is also used by Nikon Capture, uses autoselection based on the colour and tone of where you place the adjustment dot. The circle selects how far you want the effect or adjustment to go, and is smart feathered. So, for instance, if you placed a dot on a patch of blue sky, you could adjust all the similar blue areas around the dot, but any nearby white clouds (for instance) would not be affected. The adjustment is feathered around the circular selection so that it blends in smoothly. Like any "smart" system, it is not foolproof, but if something is affected that you don't want changed, placing a dot on it cancels the effect of adjoining dots. It takes a while to get used to it, but it is quite effective.
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:16 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Thank you for the explanation.. I never quite got it..
I have had it since the demo and thought the concept was cool...
Thanks again , Maybe I will try it out again...
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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There you go...Up in my last post..made with the original from Mtmm
It is actually a couple of clicks only..
Not one...:+]
Then maybe 3-4 minutes Dodging and burning..
Take in mind that was a horribly small jpeg....

I think I proved my point...:+]
Snook
I'm just saying to achieve this look it requires more then just 10 mins of work. And just because you took one of Mtmm's "raw" photos and did it in a few mins doesn't prove anything. For all we know whatever Mtmm posted wasn't even a raw shot.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:13 PM
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I'm just saying to achieve this look it requires more then just 10 mins of work. And just because you took one of Mtmm's "raw" photos and did it in a few mins doesn't prove anything. For all we know whatever Mtmm posted wasn't even a raw shot.
What are you talking about?
You lost me..
He did not post a raw file.. he posted an Untouched jpg...
You really should read before you post stupid post.
I guess having 5 posts to your name we should not expect anymore...:+]
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