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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 09-18-2007, 11:13 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

Why must it be a secret recipe that everyone should be able to do if they just knew the ingredients?

I believe that dodge and burn requires an artist touch as normal painting would. Many of the good retocuhers has a artistic backgrounds ( greenberg, dresser, jeffery scrott, michael rosen etc ).

I have big troubles with the art of Doge and Burn =) I find it difficult knowing beforehand exactly where add or subtract to get a certain effect.

Not having a real style yet this is the look I am at now, using a lot of lights when shooting.

http://www.pellepiano.com/studiobild/images/imagef6.jpg
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:22 PM
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Why must it be a secret recipe that everyone should be able to do if they just knew the ingredients?

I believe that dodge and burn requires an artist touch as normal painting would. Many of the good retocuhers has a artistic backgrounds ( greenberg, dresser, jeffery scrott, michael rosen etc ).

I have big troubles with the art of Doge and Burn =) I find it difficult knowing beforehand exactly where add or subtract to get a certain effect.

Not having a real style yet this is the look I am at now, using a lot of lights when shooting.

http://www.pellepiano.com/studiobild/images/imagef6.jpg
I've dabbled trying to learn and understand the D&B technique, but I could never really catch on how to master it. If there was a DVD available showing step by step demo on this style, maybe I could see how it's done in real time. I think there are some links here somewhere on the D&B tutorial and it is a good thing to know about

Unfortunately there is a bit of secrecy in the trade, but there are also a ton of resources available out there to pick up a lot of tricks and techniques. I still think Katrin's books are some of the best material to get started in pro retouching. Any secrecy is what to sift through to get on the right path in the least amount of time, haha, just kiddin' though.

BTW, this forum is a bit of a "secret" from the general community and even I found it by sure accident, but I'm glad I did, because it's like an online school and free scholarships access. steve
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

thats why we use lighting to reduce or increase dynamic range
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:22 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

my attempt at dave hill
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:47 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

brafla6: it looks like you have taken my retouch and altered it...it looks blown out in the forehead area...

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Old 09-26-2007, 12:30 PM
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I thought I had taken the "original" i apologize!
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

here is a link to a very close to Dave hill by our very own rp.com member...

http://www.retouchpro.com/gallery/sh...php?photo=4813


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Old 10-14-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

Nice Picture.... and he lives 10 min away from me*g*

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Old 10-16-2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

Here is a photographer who is right up there with the dave hill look: Click portfolio and then next till you get to pic #9.

http://www.taylorchristianjones.com/
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:17 AM
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Here is a photographer who is right up there with the dave hill look: Click portfolio and then next till you get to pic #9.

http://www.taylorchristianjones.com/
On thing I noticed about some of the work on this site was many of the subjects are posed dead center which doesn't use the rule of thirds principal. If that is the guy's style and look then that's the way it is, but I like to see more variation of composition. Some of the images are ok, as far as subject placement

Now I am seeing more and more references to the Dave Hill and Jill Greenburg look, but that style has been copied so many times, it is loosing its uniqueness, for me anyway. I would rather see a new direction of originality in photographer's work. Now they have actions you can buy to just push a button and get the "Jill Greenburg instant look."

See, it's like being an original songwriter. You play your song for someone and they say, "oh, that's sound almost like the Beatle's "Dear Prudence" or something similar or hey, sounds just like Madonna."

It's ok to be an imitator in the beginning, but after many experiments and hard work to establish a unique look, it would be good to be an innovator as well

These concepts and styles are interesting as long as 10,000 new shooters don't keep copying it. JMHO
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