The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[pellepiano]

A wide angle lens makes the shadows appear at different angles.If you look between the legs of the 5th person you see a shadow of a "lamppost" that is at a totally different angle than the big pole to the left ( sorry dont know the proper names =) ).

The shadows are not perfect, but done to resemble the original shadows.

[punkjumper]

Originally Posted by pellepiano

A wide angle lens makes the shadows appear at different angles.If you look between the legs of the 5th person you see a shadow of a "lamppost" that is at a totally different angle than the big pole to the left ( sorry dont know the proper names =) ).

The shadows are not perfect, but done to resemble the original shadows.

I did notice the different angles of the 3 shadows (the people, the large light pole and the one between the legs) and was confused. didn't realize that a wide angle lens would do that to shadows. I'm obviously not a photographer

reflections and shadow direction/shapes can be tricky to photoshop because you can do an accurate representation/recreation but it "looks weird" so the view will think, fake.....

anyway nice image.

[Sistere]

Originally Posted by superkoax

can you tell us abit on how go trough making the shadows down the ground believable??? Just want know the shadows IMO looks good...Are they real or fake?

This does look nice, especially when knowing they were shot individually in a studio.

What would be great, is if you would share your lighting setup. Boxes on both sides but what size? Front light?

Nice work! I've spent a lot of time on your StudioBild site and really like your style. I will be moving to Prague in March so perhaps I can buy a day of your time and come pick your brain. PM me if this would be possible.

Warmest regards,
Damien

[pellepiano]

No boxes, just cheap shoot thru umbrellas. Same goes for front in ( most cases ). I often change lighting depending on background.

[EOS4LIFE]

I wanna try!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/...18027945_b.jpg

The NewbieOneKaNewbi

[pixelzombie]

Originally Posted by EOS4LIFE

I wanna try!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/...18027945_b.jpg

The NewbieOneKaNewbi

looks good, definitely has a DH "look"...

[superkoax]

EOS4Life: Looks very nice...can you share your work flow? Did you use LucisArt?

[zogdart]

eos4life: indeed it look's very good. it would be nice if you could post the before and give us a run down on how you acheived it. thanks.

[Calvinhollywood]

@Eos4life
Thats not a Dave Hill Look... thats pure Lucisartplaying.
@Pelle
Great work.... Respekt
Heres my part
Wonda-Prince.jpg
CAL_3435.jpg

All done with correct Light Set up and dodge and burn. You need hard lights from the side.
In post production you have to work at the shadows and the highlights.
Most people who can create the davehill look are Illustrator experts

sorry for my bad english

lg Calvin
http://www.calvinhollywood.de

[EOS4LIFE]

Yeah,but not too far off,maybe if I went a little darker in the lighting. I did say "try".

[lithica]

Originally Posted by marclile

i wouldn't say that it isn't close... plus, I'm pretty sure that i heard someone in one of Dave's videos say "it's amazing what you can do with HDR and a little LucisArts". so i think he is using it, at least for some stuff.

seriously, you think a top photographer getting paid thousands a shoot does it by using a 200 dollar filter - if you read his blog or any of his posts its quite clear that he doesn't use either hdr or lucisart - i've seen that video and found it very very funny, the poor man is sick of having his efforts compared to a cheap filter.

[EOS4LIFE]

ah who cares. 60% photography 40% graphic artistry. looks cool,but getting over played.

[EOS4LIFE]

This is a old image from my flickr account.My hard drive with the original is in Shanghai,and I'm currently in the States visiting family.

I start with duplicating the layer using smart blur(for skin) on 2nd layer to my liking...not that much. on the 2nd layer I apply lucis whyeth #1 with a mix of 66. Once applied,I dial the opacity down to my liking. onto a layer mask on layer 2 and brush set at 20-40 opacity and soft edges I paint some of the natural skin tone back. Depending how that looks I duplicate the original layert again and smart blur again,and then layer mask that layer for a second time to adjust the skin some more.

A photographer that I used to assist for says that a mix of lotion and this bronzing sparkle mixed together, and applied all over the skin of her bikini shots works well with this style. She also uses around 4-6 strobes,focusing on really punching out crazy highlights from the side lighting. That shine off the skin does amazing things with this look.

[mrbeagle]

my first attempt shot yesterday

http://plushimages.net/clients/Heath...draven_tat.jpg

[zogdart]

there is a video tutorial on this page (bottom)

http://www.blog.bluehourphoto.com/secretweapon.html

The Exposure filter with lucis art might be an option! mixed with differnet layers and blending modes. It think i'm gona pony up the 143.65$ and see if i can get anything good with it.

I will let you know if i do.

[Eks]

Originally Posted by EOS4LIFE

I wanna try!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/...18027945_b.jpg

The NewbieOneKaNewbi

Love your work man! How'd you do it?

[zogdart]

Here are a few result

[zogdart]

Some more result with lucisart.

[plugsnpixels]

Nice work, zogdart!

Speaking of LucisArt, I wrote a review of it for .PSD magazine about a year ago (it's posted on their website here). There's a better/larger example of the Goth girl's headshot here.

[morpheus1870]

Me first attempt.

Any tips to improve would be great!

[plugsnpixels]

That's a nice texture on the foreground subject. I would just suggest (for this particular photo) to dim down/soften/vignette the folks around him (distracting).

[Eks]

pic from "My take on Dragan" thread

http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_921lo.jpg

[One4UAll]

This entire thread is so much nonsense, from the standpoint that one artist has an answer to successful retouching for all occasions. Even DH disavows his is the only technique. DH provides a certain effect for a certain client for a certain project. Yes, learn from DH's technique, but to genuflect before it as a way of making more money is, well, robotic, which is what DHs images make humans into.

Superkoax is exceedingly boring. It could be he's up so late due to the midnight sun.

[superkoax]

haha...me boring?! so,so wrong!
if this thread is nonsense then you, sir, you're just plain stupid! to learn and to discuss DH technique has given me a lot of ideas. Can't speak for others who have participated in this thread, but I think that to call this thread nonsense is just ignorant!

BTW, midnight sun? LOL! you probably think that we have polar bears running around here in Bergen as well...

[Mtmm]

Originally Posted by superkoax

BTW, midnight sun? LOL! you probably think that we have polar bears running around here in Bergen as well...

They are all here in Helsinki Finland.

[morpheus1870]

Had another go.

I think the thread is great by the way, the amount i have learned (d&b, curve variations etc) makes it well worth while.

Peace

[One4UAll]

Originally Posted by One4UAll

This entire thread is so much nonsense, from the standpoint that one artist has an answer to successful retouching for all occasions. Even DH disavows his is the only technique. DH provides a certain effect for a certain client for a certain project. Yes, learn from DH's technique, but to genuflect before it as a way of making more money is, well, robotic, which is what DHs images make humans into.

Superkoax is exceedingly boring. It could be he's up so late due to the midnight sun.

My apologies to superkoax & to all who've participated in this thread. I wasn't thinking when I wrote that post & I displayed a great deal of ignorance, to my regret. I apologize also for stereotyping Norway & Scandinavia, in general, esp. since I'm Norwegian on my mother's side. I guess I thought I could poke some fun at my own people. Anyway, I'm sorry.

[superkoax]

Originally Posted by One4UAll

My apologies to superkoax & to all who've participated in this thread. I wasn't thinking when I wrote that post & I displayed a great deal of ignorance, to my regret. I apologize also for stereotyping Norway & Scandinavia, in general, esp. since I'm Norwegian on my mother's side. I guess I thought I could poke some fun at my own people. Anyway, I'm sorry.

no prob man! this is the most alive polar bear you'll ever see in Norway http://www.freidig.no/Isbj%C3%B8rn.jpg

Good to see other fellow vikings in here

[superkoax]

Originally Posted by morpheus1870

Had another go.

I think the thread is great by the way, the amount i have learned (d&b, curve variations etc) makes it well worth while.

Peace

I think that by changing out the background with some circus or something the after picture would look so much cooler!

thanks fro sharing!

[George B]

Hi guys,

I've really enjoyed this thread so I decided to played around with the photo posted by hrkljush.....here are my results.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...ljush-test.jpg

Lucisart then used Photo-Plugins local contrast enhancement, D&B, and Saturation adjust.

George