Photo Retouching - - The demystification of dave hill! let's all help! - Page 12

ProjectLam · #**166** 11-02-2007, 10:13 PM

very cool! what kind of methods are you using?

marclile · #**167** 11-02-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ProjectLam

very cool! what kind of methods are you using?

1. open in photoshop and create a duplicate layer.
2. on the copied layer, run "NeatImage" plugin to smooth out the skin.
3. then run "LucisArts" plugin and use the "sculpture" effect.
4. turn the opacity of the top layer down until i get a good balance between the "cartoon" look and the "real" look

I must say though... everyone keeps saying that the lighting is what it's all about and that is definitely true. I've tried the same technique on numerous photos and some of them turn out horrible. i think the only reason that the ones that i did of the people in the pool turned out ok is because i was getting some extra lighting bouncing off of the water in the pool.

ProjectLam · #**168** 11-02-2007, 10:52 PM

i agree. the lighting certainly does make a big difference. i can't imagine the same effect on a photo that's not well lit. thanks for the tips, i've been trying it forever. even the tutorial on flickr from the strobist group didn't work well for me...

ProjectLam · #**169** 11-03-2007, 03:27 AM

my try at it, but not perfect. it's ok, i'm always trying to improve..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/...c34bc612_o.jpg

marclile · #**170** 11-03-2007, 11:47 AM

here's another one i did... i think this one turned out pretty good too. what do you think?

http://www.lilephotos.com/album_phot..._5427-Edit.jpg

ProjectLam · #**171** 11-03-2007, 02:22 PM

it's awesome. the only difference is dave hill has light foregrounds on darker backgrounds, but that's just how he sets up the shoots...

superkoax · #**172** 11-03-2007, 03:00 PM

lucis art isn't close...if you compare the dave hill effect and the lucis art effect...it's fragments of similarities, but the dave hill effect is much, much,much cleaner...

marclile · #**173** 11-03-2007, 08:00 PM

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lucis art isn't close...if you compare the dave hill effect and the lucis art effect...it's fragments of similarities, but the dave hill effect is much, much,much cleaner...

i wouldn't say that it isn't close... plus, I'm pretty sure that i heard someone in one of Dave's videos say "it's amazing what you can do with HDR and a little LucisArts". so i think he is using it, at least for some stuff.

tetragramaton · #**174** 11-04-2007, 03:45 AM

Hi guys ,there is some good examples here,yesterday i went out and i have tryed on one of the photos i took
http://www.flickr.com/photos/menandar/1847078571/

Calvinhollywood · #**175** 11-04-2007, 07:34 AM

Belive me my friends..... its more than just LucisArt or HDR.

You have to paint with light.... dodge and burn.

lg Calvin

I dont like to say its the Dave Hill Look.... its just a Look that will be the Result of dodge and burn
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superkoax · #**176** 11-04-2007, 07:39 AM

calvinize? hehe...nice on....your style is getting there,man! Marclile: Don't even think he works with lucis art! give me the video where you heard it and I'll believe you!

Gerry

marclile · #**177** 11-04-2007, 11:29 AM

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calvinize? hehe...nice on....your style is getting there,man! Marclile: Don't even think he works with lucis art! give me the video where you heard it and I'll believe you!

Gerry

here is the video... granted the guy might just be joking but he definitely says it. it's toward the end if i remember right. right before the guy that jumps with the balloons and popcorn.

http://www.davehillphoto.com/behind_...nationwide.mov

prizo · #**178** 11-04-2007, 12:47 PM

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lucis art isn't close...if you compare the dave hill effect and the lucis art effect...it's fragments of similarities, but the dave hill effect is much, much,much cleaner...

Exactly.
That Lucis stuff isnt even close.

Here is my latest work... its not all that Hill-esque, IMO, but some people have said it is.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2393/...9d1816cf8d.jpg

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superkoax · #**179** 11-04-2007, 01:46 PM

Prizo: care to share high res of the pictures you posted? I think everyone can benefit to work on these...the feel is awesome, but the technique could be better...but this is what people should get to know and work with if they want to feel the dave hill effect...

I beer is sent trough mind control to your fridge! maybe it's there!

Cheers

gerry

transoptic · #**180** 11-04-2007, 08:21 PM

prizo: I think the main light you used high camera left presents a problem. It seems it needs to be closer and larger, to eliminate shadows.

Dave Hill uses a huuuuuge brollybox or octobox lookin thing, and often a hard hair light... Not to forget the ringflash.

I mean good start trying to get the wrap-around lighting, but your main light needs correction.