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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 09-10-2008, 12:48 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

whats with the smooth transitions between the different levels? no peaks, nothing. smooooth and falling....

how can someone balance the amount of the different levels in one picture manually?

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Old 09-10-2008, 01:02 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I think those levels are what are to be expected. That is normal from a lit picture that is not 'high-key' (IE: very bright) these photos are predominantly dark (most of the pixels are black) with the brights being very few, hence the slope from shadows to highlights.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:04 PM
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Smooth transitions come from working in 16bit, and being careful with the adjustments so as to make it punchy and contrasty, without being posterized.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:05 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

the smooth transition between the amounts of the different levels has still to be explained i think.

edit: i was to slow. ok, now thats a little more clear to me. so no big impact to the whole imageeffect?!

edit2: no, it's not more clear to me. that has nothing to do with 16bit and beeing careful with the adjusments. the amounts of the different levels are getting constantly less in the whole image. that says nothing about posterization or not.

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Old 09-10-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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It's all the lighting.
so would you say dave hill is using something similar to this?
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:17 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Basically yes. Although there are probably softboxes on those back lights. There might not be the brolly fill either. And it's most likely either the big softbox in the front OR the ring flash. Remember the idea is to keep the light contrasty- too much fill makes for flat images, but there is probably some fill. Depends. But otherwise yep- that's what I would say is the setup.
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:24 PM
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Basically yes. Although there are probably softboxes on those back lights. There might not be the brolly fill either. And it's most likely either the big softbox in the front OR the ring flash. Remember the idea is to keep the light contrasty- too much fill makes for flat images, but there is probably some fill. Depends. But otherwise yep- that's what I would say is the setup.
okay, i like your portfolio, great work, i would love to see what you could come up with trying to emulate this style as you said you could lol
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:49 PM
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If I get a chance in the next couple weeks, I'll try something similar.
Would love to see what you come up with! I love your photography, great fashion work!!
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:22 PM
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Smooth transitions come from working in 16bit, and being careful with the adjustments so as to make it punchy and contrasty, without being posterized.
Do all camera RAW files start out in 16bit? How do you convert from Camera Raw (in Photoshop) into a 16bit file?

Do most retouchers retouch in 16bit? This is the first I've heard of working 16bit. I know there's a split between those that work in RGB and CMYK though.
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:28 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Quite a time ago i have seen, proppably in this thread a post, in which someone was considering DH "nerd" shot... and with start on it, he/she did some luminescence masking and curves adjustements layer to make the pic look more dramatic. Search didn't help, maybe soneone remembers who postet thad and where?
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