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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 09-22-2008, 10:14 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Its difficult with a ring flash as they end up being very powerful
yeah, that's why we should use the priceless trick by dave hill. he showed it to us in one of his making of videos. it's, how you get the dave hill effect

paste up the ringflash a little bit.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:17 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I've kept my lighting set up pretty mobile, using four Vivitar 285HV strobes and one SB800 with a ringflash adapter.

Unlike the bigger ringflashes, the ringflash adapyter results in one fstop loss of light, which makes the flash perfect for a fill light in for example a 2:1 ratio.

Did anyone have any thoughts on my earlier query:

"Please forgive my ignorance, but i know that the blue channel, used in conjunction with an overlay/softlight layer can be used to bring our detail, pores etc similar to a high pass layer.

To this extent, could manipulation of the red or green channel be used to smooth skin? "
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:45 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Sorry for my late answer.

To get details there are many ways in Photoshop.

I use a second RAW konvertation in sw with high contrast who i set to luminasity

My picture was done with a beauty dish from the front and 2 flashes from the side behind the models

Whatever you do work on details in the post... if you like to have such a look you cant get in in 5 min

And the most important thing is a good background and a good lightning

lg Calvin
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Old 09-22-2008, 01:40 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

This might be a stupid question,

How do you copy a channel into a layer?

I have tried with the blue channel but can only duplicate? I can't drag it into the layer window... Look's like i can't find the copy???

I have CS3.
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:30 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

blue channel - select all - copy - paste into layer
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:35 PM
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Great, Thank's!
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Is there a way to get close to the Dave Hill look without the lights and only doing the post processing? Maybe Lucis or the new Topaz? But as Snook said earlier, getting the skin right with Lucis is a challenging (mask out?). The reason I ask is that I don't have the time to set up the lights ... I'm into sports and the action happens in the moment.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:21 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Yes and Yes..:+}
There are many ways to get the "look" close enough.. just do it in increments and from a good quality file. All the contrast filters are bascialy doing the same way but with much less control,That is all, which is a lot for some.
They are playing with the contrast through masking Highlight and shadow. Whether Dave does it with his eyes closed file sipping witch juice , it does not matter.
Dave is more precise , that is all and probably spends a lot of time doing it.
But it is getting to the same effect. I have been finding, with my files which are 30 megapixel 16 bit images, Photomatixing One image developed several times is giving me a lot to play with.
What ever you want to call it or how to get there .. the principal is the same.
So that is why dave is full of shit when he says he use no HDR...Well maybe not HDR but he is playing with the shadows and highlights to give his image more lighting effects than you could normal get with "just" lighting. Hey is expanding the Dynamic Range which is basically the same thing.
The lighting is just giving you an edge to lift the shadows with out getting to much noise etc...

Your sports pictures.. Throw a little lucis at a time or even better tonal contrast filter or hell even Photomatix and then you'll have basically what you want.
Dave Hills images have a ALOT to do with the person, warddrobe,set etc.. is making his pictures and then a little tweak afterwards makes his "look"

For the Last time go out and do a production and do it with all the elements you need. And you will be happy with what you get....

There is no easy way... press a button... less control, haloing, etc...
more time = Much better image.

Snook
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:14 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

"localized selective color"


!??
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:20 AM
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selective color on for example unmasked, small parts of picture, diffrent for diffrent parts .
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