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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 02-04-2009, 06:44 AM
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That's ok!

I don't think your photo looks anything like the work of Dave Hill!
To be honest, i never do this to be a like Dave Hill work, but i just posted to see how far i am from his work, and the funny thing is that i just said: "my turn" and didn't say: here is my "Dave Hill" attempt.
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Old 02-04-2009, 06:50 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

To get the Dave hill look to put it quite simply you need to increase the dynamic range of the shot.

This is acheived as follows:

1) HDR a background
2) seperately light your subject with wrap around lighting, the object being to create a wide range of highlights and shadows, ranging from specular highlights to very dark shadows.
3) Then, use extensive dodge and burning to lighten the lights and darken the darks. Remember that a standard RAW file has about 4 stops of exposure, all of which can be exploited by careful Dodge and Burning. Unfortunately extensive D n B takes a long time. If you want the look you need to put in the time.
4) Finish the image of the person off with selective sharpening. Sharpening should be aimed at increasing midtone contrast. Don't overdo it as otherwise you will end up with that dreaded halo. Lucis, used sparingly can bring about this midtone contrast, but remember kids, mask out the skin tones otherwide you end up with a zombie.
5) Finally, cut out your individual and composite it into your HDR background, again not easy and takes great skill.
6) Voilla, Dave Hill.

Piece of piss.

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Old 02-04-2009, 06:54 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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To be honest, i never do this to be a like Dave Hill work, but i just posted to see how far i am from his work, and the funny thing is that i just said: "my turn" and didn't say: here is my "Dave Hill" attempt.
The purpose of this very long and now boring thread is to try and recreate and understand how Dave Hill acheives his look.

If you were to prehaps share your workflow and actually participate instead of just showing off your work you might not get such a curt response.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:06 AM
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The purpose of this very long and now boring thread is to try and recreate and understand how Dave Hill acheives his look.

If you were to prehaps share your workflow and actually participate instead of just showing off your work you might not get such a curt response.
I would like to know, within these 49 pages, is there anyone got closer to Dave Hill? anyone got same as his style? or let's say the most important, did anyone beat his technique and get something better?

I saw one website of someone, to my eyes his works is much better than Dave Hill, i even shouldn't believe why it is called "Dave Hill" look or style.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:11 AM
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I would like to know, within these 49 pages, is there anyone got closer to Dave Hill? anyone got same as his style? or let's say the most important, did anyone beat his technique and get something better?

I saw one website of someone, to my eyes his works is much better than Dave Hill, i even shouldn't believe why it is called "Dave Hill" look or style.
Mtmm has got kind of close, but IMHO it's not quite the Dave Hill look and certainly not better (I'm sure Mtmm will agree with this also). You may want to ask him how he acheives his look, but I know he doesn't like sharing the knowledge which is a shame, but I suspect it's pretty close to what I described earlier!

To be quite honest, due to all the attention Dave Hill has received, whilst I think it is a great technique, the look is now somewhat dated.
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:17 AM
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Mtmm has got kind of close, but IMHO it's not quite the Dave Hill look and certainly not better (I'm sure Mtmm will agree with this also). You may want to ask him how he acheives his look, but I know he doesn't like sharing the knowledge which is a shame, but I suspect it's pretty close to what I described earlier!

To be quite honest, due to all the attention Dave Hill has received, whilst I think it is a great technique, the look is now somewhat dated.
I see.

In this case it is better i stick with HDR rather than his style, it is much easier for me with HDR than DH technique.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:11 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

omg..

Just trying to create smthng atmospheric )

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5...ghouse2ib0.jpg

p.s. for your safety: be careful with fire

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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Just trying to create smthng atmospheric
In my view its close...

I really like this, can you go a bit more into how you did it.

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Old 02-07-2009, 04:04 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

No problem..but: why do we call this "DH look"?))

This is just HDR background + second shot of people..
Most time takes to merge and retouch HDR background.

The problem is that background I was able to take with f/25 iso 100 (nikon d80)

As concerns, a shot of these girls I was able to take just with f/7 iso 400.

Maybe, if I had additional lighting equipment, it would be more clear&sharp..

The temperature was about -30 degree, so it wasn't so funny to take a lot of pictures, so concept of picture is quite fail ((

(p.s. sorry for my english)
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Old 02-07-2009, 06:07 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Check this website, to me he is doing better than Dave Hill, so why didn't call this technique his name?

http://www.jangonzales.com/
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