The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[prizo]

I'm pretty sure he was joking.

[superkoax]

Originally Posted by prizo

I'm pretty sure he was joking.

hehe...I think more and more of in the direction of "maybe" he is joking...COuple of months back I would say yes he is, but now I'm not sure...Maybe he generates HDR of his pictures and then uses LUCISART as a final effect???

Anyone with LUCISART care to try?

[subxaero]

Originally Posted by superkoax

hehe...I think more and more of in the direction of "maybe" he is joking...COuple of months back I would say yes he is, but now I'm not sure...Maybe he generates HDR of his pictures and then uses LUCISART as a final effect???

Anyone with LUCISART care to try?

well i think lucis gets pretty close.

if you take a pro shot, play with it, run lucisart seperatly for cloth, skin and background and then play again (especially with manual coloring, d&b and stuff), you really can get pretty close.

(despaite the fact that if you run ANY crappy image in lucis, the preview already gets kinda hill'ish)

[qubic]

I do not think he was joking. Keep in mind that his photos look pretty unreal from the moment he shoots due tot the lighting he uses( many,many lights). The original photo and lighting is pretty important. I think he uses lucisart as a basic step in creating the effect. There is a group on flickr called lucisart and some people got close to the dave hill effect by using it. Some of them even got the effect to look more unrealistic like this one I found http://www.flickr.com/photos/pizzo/529342377/
Pretty cool, eh?

[subxaero]

this one's quite nice: http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/v...ative_edgy.mp4

(works only with special good lighted images, but gets a nice selective contrasting in the ways of mr hill)

[nightcatcher]

yes, it goes also in Photoshop RAW properties.

[keiserjohn]

Here is my atempt.

Heres the link to a big one.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/...5f9b37e3_b.jpg

[superkoax]

Originally Posted by subxaero

well i think lucis gets pretty close.

if you take a pro shot, play with it, run lucisart seperatly for cloth, skin and background and then play again (especially with manual coloring, d&b and stuff), you really can get pretty close.

(despaite the fact that if you run ANY crappy image in lucis, the preview already gets kinda hill'ish)

I wish I have LUCISART, but sadly I don't have it! That's why I can't experiment with this nice plugin!

Originally Posted by qubic

I do not think he was joking. Keep in mind that his photos look pretty unreal from the moment he shoots due tot the lighting he uses( many,many lights). The original photo and lighting is pretty important. I think he uses lucisart as a basic step in creating the effect. There is a group on flickr called lucisart and some people got close to the dave hill effect by using it. Some of them even got the effect to look more unrealistic like this one I found http://www.flickr.com/photos/pizzo/529342377/
Pretty cool, eh?

I agree to that! Maybe he uses LUCISART...I have seen picture from semipro's and amateurs that look very "HILLISH" and I have been more and more convinced the last couple of months...So maybe he uses this! I would love to see how it looks like combined with a hdr/tonemapped picture...then maybe he's style surface

Originally Posted by keiserjohn

Here is my atempt.

Heres the link to a big one.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/...5f9b37e3_b.jpg

GOdt jobbet! Nice work! Didi you do this with LUCISART?

[qubic]

Originally Posted by keiserjohn

Here is my atempt.

Heres the link to a big one.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/...5f9b37e3_b.jpg

I also think you did a great job! Can you please tell us how you did this by detail and if you used Lucisart, how did you use it and how many times. I tried applying Lucisart and indeed it gives the hill look if you have the right photo but still the details look real bad to me.

[cli]

Originally Posted by keiserjohn

Here is my atempt.

Heres the link to a big one.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/...5f9b37e3_b.jpg

hey impressive and the style of light is not so close the light of Hill... Tell us, tell us

[superkoax]

try working with Shadow/highlights plugin...It gives nice results on good lighted portraits...

Does anyone know what basis or inspiration they made LUCISART from? Is it S/H? Maybe to learn S/H gives you more control...I've seen that the Lucisart layout is based on preset buttons and a fader? That's not control in my eyes...maybe I'm wrong...

[subxaero]

Originally Posted by superkoax

...maybe I'm wrong...

you're not.

control is something lucis missed implementing

[snook305]

It takes a lot of work but you can use Lucis.. Lucis really is harsh on skin gradients and shadows and highlights on the face or Skin area.
I usually run it a couple times and mixing a Noise reduction inbetween to smooth the skin a little. actually before I run Lucis also...
Then you have to rework the skin a little as lucis roughs it up too much for my work.
Do not know how to post images here but here is one done really quick:
http://homepage.mac.com/ekphotograph...Arg%20copy.jpg
Snook

[qubic]

Originally Posted by keiserjohn

Here is my atempt.

Heres the link to a big one.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/...5f9b37e3_b.jpg

You really don`t want to tell us how you did it?

[keiserjohn]

I can post the workflow monday, tuesday. With an example picture.

I did not use lucis art.